A Copenhagen agreement and the unified,  combined, and responsive Vedic universe .

During the Copenhagen agreement calculations between Bohr and Schrödinger sometimes  discussions became very intense , Schrödinger at times became a little frustrated with some of Bohr’s approaches.

Bohr was the great master of quantum physics theories …

Richard Feynman said .

“If you think you understand quantum physics and the wave particle puzzle, that means you don’t understand it ”

Such is  incomprehensible nature and engineering of our  universe  of which the physicist Sir Fred Hoyle said ” someone has monkeyed with the universe.” Both Sir Fred Hoyle and Niels Bohr had the correct approach to exploring the universal affairs and the energies within . They did not dismiss a responsive universe, and they objectively saw for themselves the obviously unexplained and mysteriously manifested organisation and order within its atomic realms and within its enormous breath of all the galaxies. Edward Teller once said to Bohr, “That your discovery and findings  in quantum physics means we can never see reality of our world in the same way in classical physics terms ,  reality is in need of a  rethinking .” Bohr was silent for some time but then replied,” Do you mean to tell this world is all  a dream? ” Currently , scientific materialism is like a dark cloud that hangs over humanities head and along with the Darwinian hypothesis that is still foolishly regarded as fact based science , but it is stifling and suppressing the natural inquisitive nature of many . This natural inquisitive spirit is being drummed out of persons by modern education and libertine lifestyles that degrade intelligent philosophically led thinking . Any objective observations in any of the sciences will easily draw one to the same conclusion that Sir Fred Hoyle made and will get the young and old  thinking along the lines of Niels Bohr .The Vedas explore all sciences and give rationale explanations and link the worlds of classical physics , quantum physics , along with  minds and consciousness in a combined and responsive universe.  It links Bohr’s dream like world to its immediate quantum source and an ethereal plane , all of these energies stemming from a far-reaching  and unlimitedly expansive origin . Personality produces personality. Life comes from life .

The world of classical physics,  quantum physics,  the subtle ethereal planes and the pure consciousness associated with the spiritual realms,  and one and different but interconnect.
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Become expert at cleaning..

Sri Caitanya Mahāprabhu has introduced the best of yoga systems. Yoga means to link with God , and what is the best way to link with anyone? It’s by love . By love, hearts are opened, and as love increases and is recipricated with , hearts are further opened . Something gets in the way of the light of love towards Divinity, and that is the darkness of our long-standing conditioned life. Conditioned life restricts the natural light of love , but through the light of love, darkness can also be understood and reacted to in appropriate healing ways .Without light, darkness can not be seen or understood. The process of congregational chanting of the Holy names is a trancendental sound that purifies not only an individually , but the more individuals who take up the process the faster and faster  the atmosphere of the world  changes . To understand our own darkness and the darkness that is currently permeating the planet, we require real intelligence . With real intelligence,  we can see things as things really are and understand the causes of the problems and know solutions. Divinity or Krishna can give us insights into the Vedas , and give us the intelligence to understand who understands and is speaking truth and who is not .Chanting the Holy names congregationally or personalised jappa are both the means and the end of a perfection of spiritual life .Through jappa , bhajan, and kirtan, the heart  becomes clean. To bring enlightenment to the heart is the essential task of everyone. Only then can  revelation may come , the decending process . Mahāprabhu showed a wonderful example in His pastimes when cleaning the Gundicha temple , recorded in the Caitanya Caratamrita , with extensive commentaries by Srila AC Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada . He comments within his writings about the cleansing  of the temple of the heart and brings forth the teachings of the Gaudia Vaisnava acaryas and their  thoughts on the processes of purification. Unwanted things are carried life after life , and careful cleaning is needed . Where to clean within the deep subtle heart and mind are spoken of , and it needs to be learned from by those who are expert cleaners  .  All offences must be given up , and not expecting any respect or a following is key . Giving respect to everyone is the essence of success in chanting and reaching the esoteric trancendental planes of Krishna’s eternal pastimes with His family and friends .That is the  chantings’ perfection and goal .
The conclusion of Bhagavad Gita is “Think of Me become my devotee, ” Krishna says it, and Mahāprabhu demonstrated how to do it .
man-manā bhava mad-bhakto
mad-yājī māṁ namaskuru
mām evaiṣyasi satyaṁ te
pratijāne priyo ’si me
Translation
Always think of Me, become My devotee, worship Me and offer your homage unto Me. Thus you will come to Me without fail. I promise you this because you are My very dear friend

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“The Gundicha Temple cleaning, or Gundicha Marjana, is a significant annual ritual before the Rath Yatra, where Lord Chaitanya Mahaprabhu and His devotees thoroughly sweep and wash the temple, symbolizing the inner purification of the heart from unwanted desires (anarthas) to make it a fit place for Krishna. This act involves meticulous cleaning with brooms, water, and even personal garments, teaching devotees humility and selfless service (seva) through dedicated, loving effort.
Significance & Symbolism
Inner Cleansing: It’s a metaphor for cleansing one’s own heart of pride, envy, and selfish desires, much like cleaning the temple’s dust and dirt.
Spiritual Practice: The physical act of cleaning becomes a form of devotional service (seva) that helps remove anarthas (unwanted desires) from the heart, preparing it for Krishna’s presence.
Example of Lord Chaitanya: Lord Chaitanya Mahaprabhu personally led the cleaning with great enthusiasm, using His own clothes, demonstrating the ideal mood of selfless devotion. “.

Srila Rupa Goswami, in his writings, has given a thorough understanding of all things related to heart cleaning,  and Srila Ragganatha das Goswami’s book Sri Manah Siksa takes the matter into practical teachings and in other of his books the spiritual realms are revealed

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When the Gaudia Vaisnava says you are not the body , he also means you are not the conditioned mind . You can do little about reshaping the material body , the plastic surgeon trys , but you can but Bhakti yoga reshape the mind ..we have two bodies,  the gross physical body and the mental body , both can be employed in devotion to Divinity,  but of the two the mind is the essential. Krishna says in His Bhagavad Gita your mind is your best friend or worse enemy.

The most advanced spiritual devotees develop their mentally conceived spiritual body,  by the practice of purely chanting Gods names , and by smaranam , remembering the name form and pastimes,  then by Dharana ,holding the forms and pastimes in the depths of a spiritually transformed mind , then by Dhyana , entering specific lila , then by Dhruvanasmriti , deep uninterrupted meditations leading to mature Bhava beginnings of love of God .

These processes are the sciences of the change of mind in the Gaudia Vaisnava , Rupa Goswami gives this and more details in his literatures  that Srila AC Bhaktivedanta Swami has translated and commented upon .

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The Bhajans of the Gaudia Vaisnava acaryas are not just songs but rather deep meditations, realisations, and prayers, and it behoves us all to regularly enter into the spirit of these hymns on a regular daily basis as well as  discuss and meditate on their meanings , as much as we do with our acaryas writings. Srila AC Bhavtivedanta Swami Prabhupada was an excellent musician and composer of melodies and regularly sang the songs of our acaryas so beautifully and the sounds of the Sabdha Brahman emanating from his lotus mouth are still being heard all over the world on a daily basis .

Srila Prabhupada was so fond of singing trancendental bhajans, and they immediately took everyone in his presence to the spiritual planes of Vraj. .Srila Bhaktivinod Thakur and Srila Narottam das Thakur are but  some of the writers of these wondrous trancendental masterpieces .

Just as Srila Jiva Goswami gives as the meaning of the Maha mantra, along with the Goswami’s of Vrndavana,  who were taught by Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu , Krishna accepts names given to Him by His devotees,  when he accepts such names He is fully present.

When our acaryas write their songs of devotion,  Krishna is fully present. If we follow their prayers and meditations remembering their pure devotion, we may receive their mercy and understand something of the depths of their bhajans.

nāma cintāmaṇiḥ kṛṣṇaś
caitanya-rasa-vigrahaḥ
pūrṇaḥ śuddho nitya-mukto
’bhinnatvān nāma-nāminoḥ

Synonyms

Translation

“ ‘The holy name of Kṛṣṇa is transcendentally blissful. It bestows all spiritual benedictions, for it is Kṛṣṇa Himself, the reservoir of all pleasure. Kṛṣṇa’s name is complete, and it is the form of all transcendental mellows. It is not a material name under any condition, and it is no less powerful than Kṛṣṇa Himself. Since Kṛṣṇa’s name is not contaminated by the material qualities, there is no question of its being involved with māyā. Kṛṣṇa’s name is always liberated and spiritual; it is never conditioned by the laws of material nature. This is because the name of Kṛṣṇa and Kṛṣṇa Himself are identical.’

from the Padma Purāṇa.

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Pure theological cultures incorporate a broad range of lifestyles , not everyone can be what someone else can , or as spiritually minded , it takes many lives to culture pure spiritual consciousness.
But culture is culture, but at the  same time, some progressive leeway must be granted , but also an insistence that out and out atheistic libertines don’t have the power and influence to spoil family values and the discipline that leads to cultured consciousness. Extreme libertine lifestyles  can lead to a  degradation of society, making the unsophisticated and uncultured into what could be described as atheistic sophisticated animals whose only goal in life is sensual pleasures … Its the responsibility of leaders to seek support and help of those that realise and teach scientific dualism , the cultural consciousness that Plato taught .Science and religious teachings are one and the same in reality . Thus, Albert Einstein said that religion without science is blind and science without religion is lame. We should not for instance, as in the West ,  teach Darwinian hypothesis and scientific materialism as unquestioned  fact based sciences…this is the cause of ignorance because it ignores the self-evident truth of consciousness.  Exploitative unthinking entrepreneurs who have been prepared to infiltrate other countries , having not been educated correctly in the sciences of consciousness ,they  invade and set up wars that  kill others setting one group of persons against another group , because of corruption and promises of money and power .   The  libertine conglomerates want the invaded country thinking like they think , unsophisticated, and uncultured ways . Such greed of these liberal entrepreneurs leads to access to other countries’ wealth , and it ultimately becomes controlled and handed to the globalists’ control as well as  the country the wealth originate from .

Andy Burnham recently,  it appears , is to be made PM of UK , and he has a new team that could very well challenge the woke libertines who are actually a movement of global conglomerates . They try to spin a message that they are for the people and freedoms, in reality they seek to control housing , commodities of all kinds , transport systems,  and many essential services including water services and the health care systems. It’s these libertine global conglomerates that cause high house prices, high rents, and every other cost that are essential for families , keeping things at high costs . These libertine conglomerates boost their profits by monopolies , and they are helped along , by paying for political parties , so long as they are free to successfully lobby for policies from government that help them increase their control of their  monopolies and  continued increase in the profits they want . Media empires have been built by them, and 90% of the population are easily manipulated. The centre of working of  these political philosophies is at the heart of the EU and other parts of the USA . Everyone has become influenced by libertine woke global conglomerates new age culture , who profit from encouraging libertine lifestyles and everyone is working hard to do it , slaves to a system that they think give them freedoms. Society and its citizens are paying excessively for essential services that are no longer in the hands of central government but in the hands of private companies , who also promote and influence others to have a particular world veiw. Currently, there are no social housing for working people , but there are high rents paid to  private landlords, who gain from the renters and from a  government who pay them housing benefit directly from the government.

The Vedic way is the balanced middle way , with the intelligentsia at the forefront advising the political classes .
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Deep sleep and beyond.

Deep sleep …..

The mysterious conditions of wakefulness, dreaming, and deep sleep can not be understood and only speculated upon by those following scientific materialism or Darwinian hypothesis . They have, in reality, nothing at all to offer on the subject .….guessing is all they can do evolutionary firing of brain neurons having an evolutionary rest period . Unless dualism is understood, and all of its implications, nothing  can be really  understood within universal affairs .Dualism is the scientific key that opens the objectively witnessed world and puts everything in context. Ignoring consciousness is no solution to scientific affairs , but we can safely say that is, unfortunately, the modern approach to science , and it’s a pitiful state of affairs in real terms.
However, the Vedas sciences  very easily tackle every scientific issue , and logical and rational answers are given . Directly or indirectly, the Vedas addresses all issues.  Srila Jiva Goswami, in his Tattva Sandarbha, examines  all three conditions of consciousness . wakefulness,  dreaming, and deep sleep , and explains them .
Wakefulness, in reality, is the artificial state of the  consciousness enclosed in a surreal material body dealing with Karmic synchronicities . Dreaming is the artificial state of the mental and subtle  surreal body , this is where karmas are played out on a different level , desires not destined within the physical body are fulfilled and bad karma is sometimes played out in nightmares . There are other mysterious circumstances that can come about within dreams , messages being exchanged on different levels , and even spiritual messages.  Deep sleep is where both  states of consciousness are absent . A void world of deep sleep , almost a relief from the troubles of matter . However, on awakening, one thinks I experienced a very good deep sleep and feels happy.
There is a certain peaceful experience in deep sleep that people hanker for and enjoy. Srila Jiva Goswami  compares this state as a reflection of merging in the impersonal light of Divinity, where relief from material existence is experienced. Oneness without the botheration of stressful relationships and stressful material conditions.
In deep sleep, the living being is merely consciousness , having been temporarily removed from the gross and subtle body, which brings considerable difficulty or temporary happiness.
Thus, God, in His mercy, gives us a break from karmic synchronicities, good and bad , who does not hanker for long restful sleep ? .Dualism brings knowledge of mind , matter, and consciousness.  Consciousness has an unlimited potential,  and it should be realised .Those who ignore its potential get caught up in the gross , mental, or intellectual planes , as the animals do . Your dog is hankering for its dinner or wants to walk , the weaver bird intelligently builds its nest . The human is not meant to be a sophisticated animal,  but something greater . They peer into the night sky and begin to wonder about life . The Darwinian is a closed consciousness, as is the scientific materialism following.

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Take your  consciousness on a progressive journey .

Progressing our consciousness from its covered states, its shrunken states , its budding states  , or its blooming states  , and tranforming it to a fully blossoming state is a curious method of describing consciousness progression. Such a description is given in the Caitanya Caratamrita within the teachings of Sri Caitanya Mahāprabhu to Sanatana Gosvami  . This tells us the story of the evolution of the consciousness state . Many people are familiar with the word evolution,  which has been somewhat hijacked by the  Darwinians , but the word evolution can be used in a number of ways . The Vedas describes the living beings wondering within the material energies , up and down the species of looking for pleasure. From plants to insects to animals to uncultured humans to cultured humans to humans connected to and in tune with universal affairs to humans very much in tune with Divinity to humans who have brought their consciousness to its originally intended state , its pure loving state and direct attraction for Krishna in Krishna , its originator, 

Unlike the Darwinians, who consider consciousness as simply chance events of neurons firing in a brain that originated from a primordial slime , the  Vedas take a clear and objective look at consciousness . Using various sciences ,  with an analytical construct , the Vedas clearly demonstrate that   consciousness is different from  the gross and subtle influences of matter that are governed by physical laws . The Vedas shows the path of  freedom from the shackles of material existence in full .This is what we refer to as scientific dualism.

Bohr , Schrödinger , Feynman , Teller, and Einstein , as physicists , looked at consciouseness within the  responsive universe, and unlike the gross biologists veiwed  life’s  fundermentals in entirely different ways .

The Vedic terms for states of consciousness are ….ana maya, pranna maya , jnana maya , vijnana maya, and ananda maya .

In English terms, these are  compared to a flower throughout its life , first covered , then shrunken , then budding , then blossoming , then fully blooming .

The animals and other various creatures are categorised in terms of consciousness , they are considered to have covered consciousness ,  anu maya .  The unthinking human who is living like a sophisticated animal without any philosophical position is in shrunken consciousness ,  The human who considers life and its purpose is considered to be in budding consciousness , the human who has realised some degree of the glory of consciousness in connections to Divinity is in blossoming consciousness ,  and finally, the human who has established a relationship in love with God is in fully blossoming consciousness.

So literally, the science of consciousness , consciousness awareness, and self realisation and its perfection has been summarised . Each of these categories is  given a thorough run-through in the Vedas, and progressive and systematic programmes are recommended . This enables and empowers everyone to understand their consciousness state . Step by step guidance is given . One should seek an expert who is in Ananda maya consciousness to guide one in such  consciousness progressions  . Also, any person who is  a little further progressed than ourselves will be of  help by their association.

Srila AC Bhaktivedanta Swami explains the full spectrum of life’s journeys within his books .

Some scientific thinkers utalising quantum mechanics suggest we live simultaneously in different universes ..

However..

The versions are merely our subtle mind , and what it may or may not enact , when it acts within the physical plane , the universe responds , every action has an equal reaction, good , bad or mediocre..
Thus, free will and determinism within the responsive universe the endless journey of trapped karmic synchronicities..
The way out is described by Srila AC Bhaktivedanta Swami in all his writings. The full Vedic reality has been revealed

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Math is everything,  everything is math .

Absolute math ..

Is 1+1 always 2, of course, it is….. everyone will say , ….must be .

Although if we consider the theoretical physicists considerations as well as the Vedic multidimensional spiritual realms, we make look differently.  Divinity , who is always accompanied by his associates and never alone , is inside and outside , near or far . Divinity Himself is both universally gigantic or atomic in size . We can consider the laws of physics , how and why they act the way they do , and where and who is experiencing them . The multipolar Vedic universe has time and space operating at multiple levels . In this world, a Mayfly lives for twenty-four hours and the Redwood tree thousands of years . Space time is relative to where and who is experiencing it . In the world of dualism , of mind matter and consciousness , one set of laws affects one part of the equation but not the whole combination or the whole.  For instance,  when you dream at night, which  particular laws of nature  are at work ?.Dreaming is so real and connected that a man can pass semen as he embraces a women in his dream , but sometimes he is flying or living in the past or even future .
In an absolute realm  , I+1=1 and 1 – 1 = 1 and 1+1 = 2
These calculations are based on the Vedic aphorisms .

Inconceivably and simultaneously oneness and difference of Divinity from his energies and his  particle expansions , this is the trancendental and absolute mathematical doctrine of Sri Caitanya Mahāprabhu.

The hint is given that Divinity ,  who is the supreme energetic source of all energies , has multifarious variations of  energies functioning in multiple ways . Space time and the rate of the effects of time on a  particular set of atoms in one part of the universe , along with the radiation effects of the solar energies. The Vedas indicates that it is variable throughout the  multidimensional planes of existence with the billions of planets . Thus, the life span of the upadevas ,( junior demigods ) , or the demigods  themselves , or Lord Bramha, the head of the total universe, greatly differs .

On an absolute plane , Divinity Himself is simultaneously one with everything , so 1+1 =1 ,  thus , He is  inside , outside , everywhere but nowhere , near but far , this indicates His  oneness of His existence. Quantum physics speaks of instant communication , so this very well illustrates the point , what one part of the universe is doing trillions of miles away the localised part knows immediately , Visnu is the universal existence in His universal form , He knows when a blade of grass is moving in one part of the universe although he is simultaneously trillions of miles away .

Thus, the original source of consciousness lives in multiples  of dimensions both spiritually and material ,  He is not subjected to any material calculations. ….and ultimately,  neither are his particles of consciousness,  namely us , although in conditioned consciousness , we appear  totally subjected to material laws . Thus, although we are one with God, we also experience differently .We  can experience extreme differences in matter ,,Visnu is never affected by matter or subject to its laws .

Thus , 1+1=2

Divinity is  also 1- 1 = 1 .

He remains as one when the material universes are brought to a close , everything entering back inside of Him , in His Maha Visnu form , all matter ,  along with all His  parts and parcels of consciousness.

Einstein called aspects of quantum  physics as “spooky action at a distance,” which referred to one part of the universe knowing immediately what another part is doing, even  though trillions of miles apart ..

The mechanistic Darwinian and those who consider scientific materialism as an absolute truth  have to take themselves out of their own limitations that they  impose upon themselves.    To be able to  consider  reality in real terms, the plane of consciousness needs understanding.  It’s a fact , for instance,  that only a tiny percentage of the light spectrum  is observed by humans , so what to speak of other  limitations imposed by a  conditioned mind and limited intellect.

The limited can not calculate the unlimited except if the unlimited allows it to . If the unlimited could not allow the limited to know the unlimited, the unlimited would not be unlimited….

By the  unlimited mercy of the unlimited the limited can know something of the unlimited.

In Bhagavad Gita,  Krishna, after explaining plenty of details of the complete makeup of mankind  , consciousness, and material nature within a multidimensional universe, He had then  declared ,” This is just but a spark of My splendour “

The Darwinian mantra for liberation could be .

Math is everything . Everything is math ….
If they chant this 1008 times per day .
Their acceptance of subjective speculations may begin to subside, and objective sciences may become apparent to them if they keep chanting .
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That’ll be the Darwinians…subjective guessing is never really scientific…..its guessing.
Here, this might help

A scientific theory is a well-substantiated explanation of some aspect of the natural world, based on a body of facts that have been repeatedly confirmed through observation and experiment. Such fact-supported theories are not “guesses” but reliable accounts of the real world.

Micro macro murmured endlessly by PhD. evolutionary theorists do nothing to mutationally spark the micro to macro .

The Miller Urey experience 60 odd years ago , has made absolutely no progress unlike the technological world around us ..molecules don’t move towards like , and mutations degrade information.  The bluebottle fly experience show mutations lead to crippling or death , the 15-year microbial experiment to witness evolutionary development in the  microbial world , representing hundred of thousands within human lives , found no changes .

Mutational mathematics show it doesn’t work in evolutionary terms within the genome. Can you open a bike lock by chance ,  with say,  40 rollers , how many different combinations could be had ? A billion monkeys typing on a billion typewriters for one billion years , can they produce a perfectly punctuated Shakespeare script ? Including the punctuated and spaces between the words .The full script is needed just for the body plan of the ant ..what to speak of the human brain.

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It could be said that every particle of anti matter is rightly dedicated, toward Divinity, by the spiritual pure loving consciousness of the residents of the spiritual realms, who are forever expanding the spiritual bliss of Radha Krishna in a trancendental sacrifice of love . In this world the atoms elements and compounds as well as the consciousness is misused , the energies are self sacrificed in selfishness, either on oneself, ones family , ones community, ones nation , but in complete forgetfulness of the origins of the substances that we seek to enjoy , this consciousness keeps us in matter . The changes of consciousness brings us to a land of anti matter , the spiritual varigatedness of the lands of Divinity, where everything is made of consciousness , and soul on soul relationships occur , where each sense can carry out the actions of the other senses. The Bramha samita describes this spiritual realm , Lord Bramha had an opportunity to catch a glimpse of such a land before creating this material universe.

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