Einstein v Bohr

Its not that they were that far apart in real terms.

“Religion without science is blind and science without religion is lame.”
Says Einstein .

The key to understanding Einstein’s statement is to consider dualism,  Einstein was not an ardent follower of scientific materialism per se .

Bohr accepted both classical and quantum physics.
As does the Vedas , the word for atom is within the Vedas..

But the vedas speaks of the ethereal subtle energies,  akin to the mind and intelligence that are the causes of atoms , along with the electromagnetic energies that are devolved from the Bramajyoti , a high grade light originated from the spiritual realms . The multidimensional material and spiritual planes are discussed in the Srimad Bhagavatam.
The world we live in is real, of course,  but temporary. The followers of Sankaracarya consider this world unreal , and in one sense, that’s true but in another not .
The consciousness and the universe are linked together by the interests and desires of the individual consciousness under the supervision of Divinity and His unlimited consciousness, and limited consciousness is eternally linked to the unlimited consciousness.
When the conscious being  understands that he or she is something different than a material body and also different from the  universal energies, being freed from scientific materialism and  clearly understanding dualism , then the real consciousness journey begins .  One should question why the living beings have  become subjected to the laws of the universe . By such enquiries, the universal order  reciprocates in helping gradually acquire knowledge and detachment from all  universal connections, and that is  the beginning of  liberation . Gradually, by understanding dualism and by  searching the inner meaning to life, one is connected to devotional activities . The cause of all causes is understood by  purified and detached persons. One can eventually enter a  plane where consciousness and the energy surrounding it are of the same nature .
Once Edward Teller had tea with Neils Bohr, and he said to Bohr, ” You have changed everything in the way we view the world, and in the future, everyone will see the world much differently..”
After a long pause, Bohr said, ” Are you saying this world is not real but like a dream?”
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Consciousness means personality, the two can never be separated, and the personality is exhibited in conditioned consciousness within the 8,400,000 species of life or in its original purity within higher realms .
Dust on a mirror prevents a natural reciprocation of light , similarly the cleansing of the heart by association with Divinity by deep meditation, deep prayer or calling His trancendental names reveal our pure personality free from the shackles of a personality contaminated by lust , anger , greed ,envy , and the madness and illusions associated with selfish consciousness.
The Vedic Culures explore very deeply the phycologically contaminated personality as well as freedom from it , each personality is unique in their own right , as its said snowdrops are .Divinity reciprocates individually with each personality in loving exchanges .

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95% of atheists shout out that there is no God .

If we ask them what do you mean by God ? or if there were a God, how would we know ? , they have no real answer .We  can safely say their answers are mere sentiments lacking in any scientific knowledge. The bulldozed Darwinian..

In reality, knowledge of God are  not mere sentiments. Albert Einstein puts it clearly.

“Religion without science is blind and science without religion is lame.”

Thus, those,  and especially those who study the Vedas, look at theological matters and also know the sciences of God . As Einstein rightly pointed out, dualism, along with consciousness, must be considered fully , as opposed to the Darwinian favourite,  scientific materialism.   The differences in philosophical construct that occur within the broad ranges of theological cultures must be carefully looked at as different branches of a tree , of different realisions of Gods personality and energies. Objective science most definitely points in a particular direction. Those who are using  rationale and logic draw conclusions . Subjective speculations can cloud matters and should be , using logic , shaken off  ,less one remain in the unlimited contrived realms of mental speculations . The material energies fool those who want to be fooled . Beware , as well , of the subjective speculations of others  that are presented as fact based science within the educational systems worldwide .

The Vedas says there are 1st class, 2nd class and 3rd class knowers of religions and God , technically called Kanistha, Madhyama and Uttama devotees  .

We can also say that in each  religious group,  one should avoid the fanatical Kanistha , or 3rd class , because although they have little faith , they cannot scientifically understand all aspects of Divinity and are lacking in realisation. If we want Vedic conclusions, we should seek the Uttama, the top most devotee or a rising Madhyam.  Of atheists, there are also many differences . Most are unthinking atheists who know little of  spirituality or objective science,  but just sentimentality has been indoctrinated  to assume ‘one life and dead ‘ , at most, such persons are sophisticated animals.

The Vedas delves  deeply into all matters of philosophical pursuits  and  various positions . 95 % of atheists would be totally clueless when it is said that the   Vedas study consciousness in different terms , such as  monism,  purified monism, specific monism,  pure monism, and one and differences of  consciousness that culminate in Pranaya which is the inconceivable oneness  and differences taught by Sri Caitanya Mahāprabhu , a oneness in pure love with another.

How do you know spiritually?

Sabdha Brahman is refered to in the Vedas as “pure trancendental sound “, it is the sound of absolute truth that can be received by a sincere and  truthful heart freed from duplicity , a person who wants truth . The very sound itself is the means and end to trancendental knowledge, and it includes purificatory effects .
Krishna says .
Srnvatam sva kathah krsnah
Punya sravana kirtanah
Hrdy antah stho abhadrani
Vidhunoti suhrt satam

” I help one understand that person who really and sincerely wants to know me “
Srimad Bhagavatam 1.2.17

Look up and the Commentaries by Srila AC Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada and other acaryas..

The ‘abhadrani ‘ means desire to enjoy matter . Srila BR Sridha Swami gives a discussion on the ‘abhadrani ‘ in his lectures , the unpleasantness that is situated deep in the heart that needs removal . When it is removed, then the auspicious is revealed the Bhadrani . The desire to enjoy temporary matter decreases when the ” Sabdha Brahman” pure  sound enters the hearts of the sincere .  The whole of Vedic Ontology begins to be discovered , and the epistemological methods are perfect because they originate from the original source of truth
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Divinity is the same engineer that uses similar successful engineering ..

Why would he not .?

The gradual mutational Darwinian hypothesis is drowning is the primordial soup it originated from ..
See ..

“A skilled engineer who uses the same tweaked machinery designs across a wide range of projects would likely be operating with a platform-based design strategy, modular design, or standardization. This approach has several benefits and implications:
Reliability and Risk Reduction: Using designs that have been tested and verified in previous applications reduces engineering risk. Engineers are leveraging an existing knowledge base, making the resulting machinery more reliable and predictable in performance [2].
Scalability and Adaptability: The core design (the “platform”) is inherently scalable and adaptable. With minor “tweaks” (modifications), it can be tailored to meet the specific requirements of diverse applications, from automotive to aerospace to industrial manufacturing [3].
Expertise and Specialization: The engineer develops deep expertise in that specific design platform. This specialized knowledge allows for continuous improvement and innovation within that particular system, optimizing its performance across all its uses [3].
This practice is common in many industries, such as in the automotive sector where the same vehicle “platform” (chassis, engine mounts, basic electronic architecture) is used for several different models (e.g., a sedan, an SUV, and a hatchback) with tailored modifications for each market..
What are the difficulties to understand

Bhagavad Gita mentions these machines .. called Yantras .Bhagavad Gita 18.61

īśvaraḥ sarva-bhūtānāṁ
hṛd-deśe ’rjuna tiṣṭhati
bhrāmayan sarva-bhūtāni
yantrārūḍhāni māyayā

The Supreme Lord is situated in everyone’s heart, O Arjuna, and is directing the wanderings of all living entities, who are seated as on a machine, made of the material energy.

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“A fundamental principle of magnetism: like poles repel (north repels north, south repels south) while unlike poles attract (north attracts south), driven by the energy in their invisible magnetic fields, a behavior similar to electric charges..”

We could say in spiritual truths in their highest calculations , this same principle is lived out ..
Sri Caitanya Mahāprabhu has revealed this upmost of truth in his revelation of the inconceivabe and simultaneously oneness and differences of the living bring with Divinity.
We are one with God and are expansions of Him . In a liberated state some want to become one with Him , but the Vedas states that after a long time the living being again comes to the material atmosphere.
Why? , because ultimately the differences or the “unlikeness ” of ourselves to Divinity , ( oneness and difference) attracts Divinity, He likes to exchange love with us , and ultimately that is what the individual soul in deeply hankering for ..Difference creates beauty and love and in the spiritual planes everything is harmonized, even discord. .

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The cor purposes of Bhakti yoga, described by Srila Rupa Goswami, Srila Sanatana Gosvami, and Srila Ragganatha dss Goswami can be achieved by anyone , their karmic condition are not considered, rather abandoned.
However, if one has opulences of good karma, one can and should use them in devotion to Krishna, but they alone are not the qualification to enter spiritual understandings or enter by meditation and remembrances Krishna lila ..
Thus, smarta Brahminism in all its various forms and snobbery have been totally rejected by Mahāprabhu and Nityananda prabhu and the pure love from any souls , even the most fallen has been immediately accepted by them . The real bone fide Gurus immediately recognises this type of love and accepts such a person as a disciple. If a Guru makes material considerations about disciples, he or she is not an advanced Guru ..

The astrological angle ….

People who overly rate the power of the reading’s of astrological calculations in a modern age should consider wisdom of how to read the stars are not part-time armchair sidelines . Rather astrologers must have certain purity and be directed by the demigods themselves so as to clarify matters and read properly the ever-changing karmic synchronicities that are moving in different directions according to a particular persons life style and sacrifices , particularly of those directed towards Divinity. We are not dead stones , or set in stone ..generally astrological matters are used by materially ambitious persons who are overly anxious for successs and happiness , happiness and distress comes and go like the winter and summer season , says Krishna , importantly one should conduct trancendental sacrifice, without any expectations of personal benefits, that’s Krishna’s recommendation .Bhagavad Gita tells us why ..
Which great astrologer predicted the two massive events of covid or the changes from a unipolar world to a multipolar one ?
The answer, I believe, is none..
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Take a closer look at what you identify with and whyWhen one strongly identifies with a particular outlook of a person or group of persons who may express  particular strong  scientific ,  philosophical or political views  that can  somehow convince , one could be said to be investing ones whole life in another’s world veiw.  We should not sacrifice our own personal  thinking power along with  contemplative internal thinking . Placing  faith and trust in another’s  world veiw is a huge step to take.  Scientifically speaking, for instance, we can consider the following statements.

A  scientific theory is a well-substantiated explanation of some aspect of a natural world that has been vigorously tested and repeatedly confirmed through observation and experiment , it’s never guessing but based on real events in a real world. We can also say for sure , and leading evolutionary scientists will also agree ,  Macro evolutionary hypothesis is not at all  proven fact based science . It’s actually far from it , it’s a hypothesis based on micro evolution,  which is a natural outcome of environmental changes. Honest scientists will surely tell you that much guessing is involved. Micro evolution does not mean macro evolution . Especially  because without a mutational math calculation, it’s virtually a pipe dream, and it is not a phenomenon seen in the historical records of a real world. It has not been repeatedly confirmed in any findings  . Also, through extensive and long-winded experimentation, it’s seen that molecules do not move towards life within a laboratory. A primodial soup of the Miller Uray kind remains totally unproven and pure guessing is involved.     It’s been over forty years since Miller Uray,  and no progress has been made.

Yet this crucial information seems to pass people by .  If we look at the educational systems and the governance of it , it’s hardly surprising . Students have been taught not to be critical of the Darwinian hypothesis , and are not taught the alternative,  intelligent design. They have, however, been  taught to be critical of all  philosophy and theological sciences based on dualism. Thus, todays students strongly identify with a  Darwinian world view , and the whole investment of their temporary and fast-moving  lives,  become soley materialistic  and fixed in this Darwinian world veiw .

This could be said to be deliberate,  it very much suits the economic development syndrome of the crazed conglomerates who keep on producing any amount of goods  of all kinds to satisfy an ever agitated mind and senses that will  never find satisfaction. Dualism teaches the body wont be satisfied,  the consciousness needs satisfying. The conglomerates  like to think the sources of the materials for their goods  are never going to deplete , and they don’t care what it takes to get them .Wars , famine , environmental damage, or natural habitats of animals made into wastelands .

So when persons base their world view on someone’s world view without any critical thinking , we have got to ask  why ? It means education has  failed, and when a scientific hypothesis is presented as fact based science , it again means education is a cheating process. We need sincere and strong critical thinking of the scientific kind in order to understand mind , matter, and consciousness. Our  worldview  and goals drastically change when science is not a spoon-fed indoctrination but instead based on  the reality of an objective world, and the science’s are self-evident.

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Real arts meanings are to induce people to think differently or much more deeply and philosophically utalising everything of the arts including of course humour.

In the days of scientific materialism and Darwinian hypothesis , indicating one life one death , the art and the artists have sadly declined in quality and have become a shadow of their former selves , being so shallow and simple examining current affairs and temporary life ..
We see even politically the artists of today are in a sorry state , they are commercially driven and careful not to upset the apple cart .
Unlike for instance John Lennon among others in the mid 60s .

Here is Ai take ..

Art is a vast field of human creativity expressing ideas, emotions, and skills through various mediums like painting, sculpture, music, literature, or performance, aiming to evoke experiences, beauty, or thought, stemming from Latin roots meaning “skill” or “craft”.

Vedic arts are of many kinds , everyone of them delve into the consciousness journey and the wonders of universal affairs, which reflects the greater consciousness of Divinity along with His peace and justice..

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Waves or particals.

The Vedas indicates the waves of the conditioned consciousness in the form of desire , mental hankering , and a vast range of  variables of the intellectual platforms , some of which can be useful on the path of liberation .These waves of conditioned consciousness, which are imposed upon the original spiritual consciousness, will respond to the atomic realms , our new bodies and situations are already taking shape . Space time and conditioned consciousness interlink whilst conditioned consciousness carries on .

Thus the past , present and future particals in the form of atoms , elements and compounds were and are destined to arrive at our doorstep,  as much as an observer observes and has an impact whilst  observing,  as the senses  and mental energies become engaged and entangled in one way or another. .
The Vedic responsive karmic universe .

Scientific materialism is dismissed entirely in the Vedas .

More on this soon .

The mysterious consciousness.
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Traditions and culture

The geopolitical scholars say ..
UKRAINE being the historical centre of Russian Culture and its theological base , was the bridge too far ,when Nato moved in , Putin has been warning for three years , before the war , John Mearsheimer comments .
The libeterians and the business conglomerates cannot infiltrate such historical significant parts of where Russia originally stemmed from ., and spread liberalisation and criticism of family and theological traditions .
That why Bethlehem will never be exclusively in the hands of Islam .

President John Kennedy rightly praised Russian historical cultures music , arts , sciences, we can not judge Russia for its days as outright communists ..
They are moving with the times , but the Russian and Chinese government as India exercise more control over the business man , who needs it .
In the West, the businessman controls the government..
The administration should have an intelligentsia to guide it , but not the ruthless businessmen who care only for profit at any cost …..clear to see …
So both cultures need to get balanced..
The idea that the West is superior in its ” democracies ” is folly .Educated democracies are badly needed , or else fools vote in fools , who silence the intelligentsia.
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