Religion is an aftermath….of life’s arrival…says Dawkins and Cronin

But this is ..
Foolish and based on scientific materialism.
Dualism is the real consciousness connection.
If consciousness is accepted as a phenomenon different from matter , which it is , it needs examining.
Thus theological cultures present the natural conclusion that any origin of consciousness , namely God , would have the responsibility to introduce an educational experience to all the ever wondering particles of consciousness who find themselves enclosed in matter and having to deal with all the consequences that brings , that logical
If Divinity did not do so , that would be cruel.
There is absolutely no evidence whatsoever molecules themselves move towards life , in fact, the chemistry behind molecules are so inconceivably complicated in their own right , ask a synthetic chemist .All evidence points to Dualism , ie matter and consciousness as two different substances, along with the superior engineering from top to bottom of the machine like body , which points logically to an engineer but beyond our comprehension, although the more we look the more we see more and more sophisticated engineering.
Those advocates who sing the glory of scientific materialism fool only themselves and try to take their brand to the true unthinking . Best to study objective sciences and bypass subjective guessing that claims to be objective science..

How to know who is who in religious circles..

…if we find violence and hatred …this means the theologians and their religious representatives have it wrong.
Actually theological cultures of every kind have the systematic processes of gradual development of knowledge of mind , matter and consciousness that leads to pure consciousness..in all religions there are 1st class, 2nd class and 3rd class followers.
If anything is presented fanatically with hatred and intolerance, it’s because it’s being presented by 3rd class followers…who has little realisation of God’s consciousness ?
One should seek 1st class followers who understand God consciousness and the varied plights of the conditioned souls , and who can give a particular path to free them accordingly, they are of varying kinds depending on an individuals circumstances.
Practical applications are well understood by the Ist class representatives .Heaven and Hell preaching is a sign of a third class devotee.
In any religion, 1st class representatives should be sought, and their scriptures will tell them clearly their symptoms .common sense is required .
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Victim consciousness , where karma ends and injustices begin

No victim consciousness in Krishna consciousness says the unthinking..

That’s OK but , lets get things in perspective, when duties are carried out properly by persons who have the particular qualifications or skill sets for designated tasks , and still suffering comes upon us , then we can think there are times suffering is unavoidable and karma works like that . Yes, and also, there are times some  circumstances come about where injustices are justice, by karmic synchronicities . However,  Vedic culture works on the principle of Varna Ashram, the right person for the right job, and carried out correctly according to set standards that are ultimately legitimated by the Vedas and supervised by the  Vedic intelligentsia  who bring governance, compliance and justice to all proceedings.
Thus .
One who does wrong and suffers wrong is wrong .
When Lord Bramha went to see Maha Visnu with his concerns of the” goings on ” on the earth planet  that was being  overburdened with militarism.
Krishna did not say
” Why are you bothering me? This is everyone’s karma , there are no unnecessary sufferings. “
Rather he came to establish justice and reestablish good leadership and reestablish principles of religion in all senses , by doing so, the innocent are protected . In one sense, as Prabhupada says ,  no one is innocent in the material world….but that’s no licence for inflicting suffering. ..

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You cannot change your sex , some say , you are what you are …

This calculation is based on scientific materialism and not dualism.
If we understand the transmigration of consciousness from one body to another , indeed one may be stationed inside a body of a particular sex for reasons of karmic synchronicities, but nevertheless the inside subtle body could be strongly associating with a previous body that was of the opposite sex than one finds oneself in .
So those who understand dualism can understand this possibility in some cases , but its not an excuse for sentimentalist to take their uncontrolled minds anywhere that might please them in the world of libertines.
Taking the matter further your dog who sits with you daily in your house , or your pet parrot or the fish in your tropical fish tank could all be in the same boat , staring out at the world in  an inner body along with feelings from their last visit…..look out your enemies from previous visits can end up where you don’t want them to be , within your family…

Richard Feynman said religion is a culture of faith
And science is a culture of doubt.

No, religion means first suspicion, then doubt , then little faith , then an increasing attraction for something sublime, which is made possible with the use of objective sciences that assist in every way conceivable , and faith carries one a long way , thus Divinity who has always been on veiw in one way or another becomes known and realised , the illusory energies subside and Suddha Satva energies replace them

Subjective sciences based on interpretations and speculations of objectively seen observation should be doubted for sure .
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Alas for those who spend their days
In festive mirth and joy.
The dazzling, deadly, liquid forms
Their hearts fore’er employ.

(2)
The shining bottles charm their eyes
And draw their heart’s embrace;
The slaves of wine can never rise
From what we call disgrace.

(3)
Was man intended to be
A brute in work and heart?
Should man, the Lord of all around,
From common sense depart?

(4)
Man’s glory is in common sense
Dictating us the grace,
That man is made to live and love
The beauteous Heaven’s embrace.

(5)
The flesh is not our own alas;
The mortal frame a chain;
The soul confined for former wrongs
Should try to rise again.

(6)
Why then this childish play in that
Which cannot be our own;
Which falls within a hundred years
As if a rose ablown.

(7)
Our life is but a rosy hue
To go ere long for naught;
The soul alone would last fore’er
With good or evil fraught.

(8)
How deep the thought of times to be!
How grave the aspect looks!
And wrapt in awe become, O, we,
When reading Nature’s books.

(9)
Man’s life to him a problem dark –
A screen both left and right;
No soul hath come to tell us what
Exists beyond our sight.

(10)
But then a voice, how deep and soft;
Within ourselves is left;
Man! Man! Thou art immortal soul!
Thee Death can never melt.

(11)
For Thee Thy Sire on High has kept
A store of bliss above,
To end of time, thou art Oh! His –
Who wants but purest love.

(12)
O Love! Thy power and spell benign
Now melt my soul to God;
How can my earthly words describe
That feeling soft and broad.

(13)
Enjoyment, sorrow – what but lots
To which the flesh is heir?
The soul that sleeps alone concludes
In them it hath a share.

(14)
And then, my friends, no more enjoy
Nor weep for all below;
The women, wine, and flesh of beasts
No love on thee bestow.

(15)
But thine to love thy brother man
And give thyself to God,
And God doth know your wages fair –
This fact is true and broad.

(16)
Forget the past that sleeps and ne’er
The future dream at all
But act in times that are with thee
And progress thee shall call.

(17)
But tell me not in reasoning cold,
The soul is made alone
By earth’s mechanic lifeless rules
And to destruction prone.

(18)
My God who gave us life and all
Alone the soul can kill
Or give it all the joys above
His promise to fulfill.

(19)
So push thy onward march, O soul,
Against an evil deed
That stands with soldiers Hate and Lust –
A hero be indeed.

(20)
Maintain thy post in spirit world
As firmly as you can
Let never matter push thee down –
O stand heroic man.

(21)
O Sharagrahi Vaisnava soul
Thou art an angel fair;
Lead, lead me on to Vrndaban
And spirit’s power declare.

(22)
There rests my soul from matter free
Upon my Lover’s arms
Eternal peace and spirits love
Are all my chanting charms.

Krishna is non envious and gives the living beings what they want , Krishna is independent and self-satisfied , although he happily exchanges love with those who wish to associate with Him .The living beings are responsible for the material world by their own choices, and  they also self  incriminate themselves by their own actions , some of them in their suffering wave their fists at God .

God has no friends or enemies by material standards and treats everyone equally as they choose independence , but if anyone wants God as a friend He becomes their best friend ,  actually He is always their best friend and well wisher , some know it and how He is , and others don’t.

Krishna, in His lila aspects, is known as Dhiroddhata, He exhibits qualities that may outwardly resemble envy, pride, restlessness, and anger. 

However, this refers to when He kills demons or suppresses those that cause suffering to others . However, any contact with the absolute all good personality of Godhead is all good . If the demons are killed by Krishna in His Dhiroddhata form, they become liberated from the material world and attain liberalisations of various kinds , some impersonal , some personal according to circumstances . Once, a witch came to kill baby Krishna dressed as a friend of Krishna’s mother’s and offered baby Krishna her breastmilk with poison smeared on the breast . Krishna sucked out her life , but she became a nursemaid  in the eternal spiritual realms and lives in bliss .

So, the living beings, if they choose to wonder in the material world, can do so . Krishna cares for them and instructs them in the responsibilities of independent actions and warns them not to do harm to others .

Then, in non envious ways, He remains their distant well wisher or comes closer when called .

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He is the person who knows simultaneously the complexities and entanglements of every particle of consciousness who, due to countless billions of lives of karmic actions, have led them  to the current karmic  synchronicities they are experiencing . Krishna says as much in his Bhagavad Gita where the field of activities are laid out , the ploughing of that field leads to a churning of the universal order , which is the inferia material energies of Divinity,  as such the living beings by their own individual consciousness are attached to the responsive universe . In that universe the many possibilities described in quantum physics are lived out ,  instant communications are inacted as any part of the universe can play host to the individual soul who wonders wonders wonders all over the universe looking for perfection in loving exchanges .Divinity within the heart directs the wonderings and is waiting for the soul to turn his full attention to Him .Krishna says in Bhagavad Gita there are two birds sitting on the tree of material life , one eats the bitter fruits of death and the other watches waiting for the bitter consumer to turn to the other bird who is Krishna Himself , so they can both fly to the original tree of like where the sweet fruits are in plentiful supply and of many varieties.

Relatively speaking, the fruits at the top of the tree being closer to the sun of knowledge may appear to taste sweeter , but still, the best of fruits begin to rot and become bitter or even poisonous .

The knower of the field

BHAGAVAD GITA 13.3.

kṣetra-jñaṁ cāpi māṁ viddhi
sarva-kṣetreṣu bhārata
kṣetra-kṣetrajñayor jñānaṁ
yat taj jñānaṁ mataṁ mama

Translation

O scion of Bharata, you should understand that I am also the knower in all bodies, and to understand this body and its knower is called knowledge. That is My opinion.

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Society with lost leaders

The essence of ISKCON..reinstate  leaders of quality

AC Bhavtivedanta Swami Prabhupada

Arrival Address…
“At the present moment, the human society is giving stress on the mercantile class of men and worker class Actually, there is no intelligent class of men or administrative class of men. So our movement is creating some intelligent class of men. According to our Vedic knowledge, the first-class intelligent man is he who knows what is God. He’s first-class intelligent man.”…………

Unless this happens..
Fools will continue to vote in fools.
Society is becoming influenced by the lowest classes of men who are  infused with scientific materialism.  Darwinian hypothesis is the name of the game  with rampant materialism the results. The conclusions of this speculative science are not based on objective scientific methods. Everything concluded is based on subjectivity , best guessing. So the whole of the modern world is following the best guessing of proud atheistic and clueless persons. Sophisticated animals….., ask them what consciousness is….,that is the most important question that anyone can ask , none of our scientific or political leaders  can give an answer , yet they expect us all to follow them . What are the goals of sophisticated animals,  eating , sleeping, sex , and snatching territories or defending snatched territories. Sophisticated animals do animalism big time , global conglomerates, and world led consumerism is the evidence. Cancel culture and narratives of every kind are spilling out of TV studies and social media , speculations, and best guesses passing as knowledge in place of authentic wisdom that originates from Divinity and His representatives who properly understand the broad topics of theological studies based around mind ,matter and consciousness in all its states and outward appearances.

Interfaith.

Although the immature followers of different faiths have problems with each other ,  the most spiritually advanced of them don’t . Srila Jiva Goswami, in his Bhagavat Sandarbha, says that when one looks at a multicoloured cloth, people see different colours , and each individual may see one colour as more prominent than another individual. Similarly, theological cultures differ somewhat , but they are cut from the same cloth . In that way, people of wisdom rightly have much respect for each other and can easily share in their experiences of Divinity .
So , it’s important for faiths to be primarily judged on the most advanced followers of each one . The lesser advanced persons who see so many differences in religious theological texts in time by becoming spiritual mature will also be able to share faith with no insecurities and with realized knowledge.

When leaders fail to take seriously the honest and wise intelligentsia problems arise of every kind , leaders of today ignore the intelligentsia who are scientifically able to  understand consciousness and dualism and who thus know of the equality of  all being and know of their rights under God’s laws .

Reagan …trickle down economics is the example of crooked capitalism gone mad ..

Fanatic ..and extremists follow this system. It’s what the world economics forum is based upon .
Trickle-down economics fails ..
Greed breeds more greed and more competing to be the most greedy ..this is sophisticated animalism.
Thus ..for example young people cant buy a house right now , as most are owed by private landlord’s who have escalated and forever upwards house prices built in to a system contrived by the greedy banks and financial markets, who see to it their government friends don’t build too many houses ….The stock , currency, and commodity markets work primarily on insider information, that cause poverty and wealth at a micro second . Third world countries have no securities for economic developments, as the commodities they sell are subjected to not free markets , but fixed markets , every third world country has outside political interferences driving conflict .
This is the dream of Ronald Reagan and the nightmare for everyone else .
Businessmen can never never be left to run society unless they take instructions from a genuine government who are directed by the intelligensia with the highest characteristics
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Gaudia Vaisnavism and its  distribution

Srila Bhaktivinod Thakur particularly wanted to bring Vedic culture in all  its aspects , both the peripheral systematic teaching, within what he referred to as Devi Varna Ashram , and that would gradually culminate in the cor esoteric truths that Sri Caitanya Mahāprabhu has revealed in His recent pastimes . The Thakur wanted all these teaching made available and distributed to modernity . In current times the cream of the Vedas in the form of the Srimad Bhagavatam as well as Caitanya Caratamrita  the essence of the Gaudia Vaisnava conclusions as taught by Sri Caitanya Mahāprabhu to the Goswami’s of Vrndavana , are bring  presented and taught  by ISKCON  devotees and other Gaudia Vaisnava’s from other institutions all over the world. It was Srila AC Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada who originally brought them to the shores of the USA  in 1965 . Srila Bhaktivinod Thakur had prayed for a son who could continue and expand his desire to  establish Krishna consciousness world wide  and specifically the Raga Marg of the  residents of Vrndavana where everyone can be  ultimately under the service of Srimati Radharani in one way or another  giving all pleasure to Krishna . Srila Bhaktisiddanta Sarasvati Goswami Maharaja appeared as the son of Srila Bhaktivinod Thakur, and he  served his father’s trancendental wishes and began to form a Vedic institution called the Gaudia math. He began  extensively reintroding Gaudia Vaisnavism , as taught by Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu , in authentic ways as Mahāprabhu had originally done within India . In doing so, Srila Bhaktisiddanta Sarasvati was correcting the many  misunderstandings that former generations had introduced. His two leading disciples who specialised in presenting Krishna consciousness scientifically , philosophically, and culturally as well as appropriately to the Western audience are Srila AC Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupad as well as  Srila BR Sridhar Swami , other prominent disciples also have made major contributions. Srila AC Bhavtivedanta Swami Prabhupada has given the Western world a chance to practically explore the Vedic Culures and examine its many benefits , introducing its untapped and unlimited wealth . He was a most prolific writer and teacher. There is no doubt Srila AC Bhaktivedanta Swami, who brought , under the orders of his spiritual master , the  Gaudia Vaisnava teachings worldwide, was extremely successful and still is . This was the same mission that was originally desired by Srila Bhaktivinod Thakur and Srila Bhaktisiddanta Sarasvati Goswami Maharaja . Its noteworthy to say that when Srila AC Bhaktivedanta Swami left the world , he instructed his disciples that if they had questions about Gaudia Vaisnava tattva they should approach Srila BR Sridhar Swami , Srila Bhaktisiddanta Sarasvati Goswami Maharaja commented that he was content that Srila BR Sridha Swami had understood everything of his ,  Srila Bhaktisiddanta Sarasvati’s  teachings .
Many other Gaudia Vaisnava acaryas have contributed and are contributing . Some are  presenting other more esoteric aspects that are required to be delved into by the mature student , the teachings of  Srila Rupa Ragganatha  Goswami’s.

Both Srila AC Bhaktivedanta Swami and Srila BR Sridhar Swami could have at any time elaborated  unlimitedly on the deepest aspects of Gaudia teachings and occasionally did so  . Although bringing the whole of the Western world and helping everyone enter into and understand the Vedic  topics in systematic ways as is  recommended in the Srimad Bhagavatam was their  general approach and, of course, it needed to be.
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  I can say for myself. although being in association of devotees and rendering services of all kinds within ISKCON…and reading Prabhupadas books ……it was not until I heard personally from Srila Gour Govinda Swami…that the messages of Prabhupada and the teachings of our acaryas began to penetrant somewhat and clear understandings began to develop. When Srila Gour Govinda Swami would say ” Give all pleasure to Krishna ” because he lived like that , his messages could penetrate the heart of anyone who wanted to hear . His explanations of Gaura Tattva are  still reverberating around the world as well as all the Tattva’s he so clearly and precisely spoke on with the authority of Sastra that he knew so well , all tattvas of any aspects of Gaudia Vaisnavas were known by him and spoken by him , including the intricacies of all the spiritual truths of the activities of Radha Krishna lila in Vrndavana,  he was truely Radha Dasyam

Srila Bhaktisiddanta Sarasvati Goswami Maharaja…Once heard  Srila Gour Kisore das babaji Maharaja..chant some slokas glorifying Vrsabhanu Nandini, Sri Radhe
So although the Babaji was so called “illiterate.”..Srila Bhaktisiddanta came to understand the Babaji’s highest learning of bhakti rasa ..and Radha dasyam …

So hearing and getting blessings from sadhu guru is vital …the  verse Sadhu sanga sandhu sanga sarva sastra kaya lava matra sadhu sanga sarva siddhi haya gives the importance of pure devotees associated.  Prabhupada gives us that opportunity……after all are we should always understand a pure devotee can make other pure devotees……if he cannot..we could doubt his trancendental potency….
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Srila prabhupada Preaching something like this …Verse
By  a former English cricket captain,  who became an active preacher

“Some like to live in the sound of the church and Chapel bell .

I want to run a rescue shop within a yard of hell “

Prabhupada makes everything clear  in his preaching
that what Krishna says is truth , and Prabhupada broadcasts that truth worldwide.

It’s very difficult to find the truth  in a world of crooks .

We live in a multi media shadow world where so called truth appears in many formats …

But the following is the judgement Prabhupada makes ..

na mam duskrtino mudhah
prapadyante naradhamah
mayayapahrta-jnana
asuram bhavam asritah

TRANSLATION

Those miscreants who are grossly foolish, lowest among mankind, whose knowledge is stolen by illusion, and who partake of the atheistic nature of demons, do not surrender unto Me.

Part purport…
Those who are not actually philosophers, scientists, educators, administrators, etc., but who pose themselves as such for material gain, do not accept the plan or path of the Supreme Lord. They have no idea of God; they simply manufacture their own worldly plans and consequently complicate the problems of material existence in their vain attempts to solve them.

So as the English cricket captain said .

As Krishna left Vrndavana to carry out duties,  but always remembers the glorious Radharani and the residents of Vraja , and thus, there is union in separation,
So Srila Prabhupada left Vrndavana to carry out duties,  but anytime he could revert back and engage in deep bhajan , as he did frequently, he was fully absorbed in union in seperation as are his pure followers .
Srimati Radharani Herself, even when sitting on Krishna lap ,can feel extreme separation and call out His name , thus, union and separation are trancendentally equal,  prema vicaita .

A SONG  .

OH MY LORD OF LORDS
ONE THING AND THATS FOR SURE ,
WE’LL NEVER FIND ANYONE MORE MERCIFUL THAN YOU .

YOU CAME HEADING THE ACARYAS CALL ,
TEACHING PURE DEVOTION TO ONE AND ALL ,
WE’LL NEVER FIND ANYONE MORE MERCIFUL THAN YOU

YOU CAME ALONG WITH  YOUR LOVING GLANCE ,
YOUR TRANCENDENTAL MUSIC , IN TIME ,  MAKES THE WORLD DANCE ,
WE’LL NEVER FIND ANYONE MORE MERCIFUL THAN YOU

YOU KEPT THE WHOLE WORLD IN YOUR PRAYERS ,
GRANTING A LIFE OF SERVICE AWAY FROM MAYAS LAIRE ,
WE’LL NEVER FIND ANYONE MORE MERCIFUL THAN YOU.

A TASTE OF SUBLIME PLEASURE ,
AND THE PAIN WITHIN CONCURE ,
WE’LL NEVER FIND ANYONE MORE MERCIFUL THAN YOU

REACHING TO THE HIGHEST , REACHING TO THE LOW ,
A HUMBLED SPIRIT  ,BOLDNESS AND COMPASSION YOU SHOW .
WE’LL NEVER FIND ANYONE MORE MERCIFUL THAN YOU.

YOU GAVE US THE PERFECTION OF RELIGION ,
… ITS A SCIENTIFIC AND TRANCENDENTAL TRANSITION
WE’LL NEVER FIND ANYONE MORE MERCIFUL THAN YOU

A GUIDING LIGHT THE JOURNEY BEGAN ,
PERFECTED BY THE SINCERE DAUGHTERS OR SONS
WE’LL NEVER FIND ANYONE MORE MERCIFUL THAN YOU

REBLE SOCIETY YOU PUT IT STRAIGHT ,
RASCALS AND DEMONS  , YOU MAY WELL FRUSTRATE ,
WE’LL NEVER FIND ANYONE MORE MERCIFUL THAN YOU

A SIMPLE HEARTED PERSON HE CAN  UNDERSTAND ,
THE CROOKED LEFT HANGING THEIR METHODS UNDERHAND ,
WE’LL NEVER FIND ANYONE MORE MERCIFUL THAN YOU.

MAHAPRABHUS ORDER WILL ENSUE ,
INTERNAL AND EXTERNAL , A HEART SPIRITUALLY ENTHUSED
WE’LL NEVER FIND ANYONE MORE MERCIFUL THAN YOU.

THEY THINK THIS IS JUST  A RELIGION YOU DECLARE ,
BUT NO ,  EVERYTHING  , ALL  INCLUSIVE , ,ALL ASPECTS OF LIFE WE SHARE , 
WE’LL NEVER FIND ANYONE MORE MERCIFUL THAN YOU

PASSING THE MESSAGE COMPLETE AND UNCHANGED ,
GURU IS ONE SUCCESSION ARRANGED ,
WE’LL NEVER FIND ANYONE MORE MERCIFUL THAN YOU.