In Gaudiya Vaisnavism under the tutelage of the six Goswami’s of Vrndavana , who Sri Caitanya Mahāprabhu taught , the Brahminical initiation is given to all classes of persons, if they have accepted training under the guidance of the appropriate Guru .This Brahminical initiation is given , not so one can further study scriptures, but only for Deity worship and other ceremonies carried out by priests.
Brahminical initiation is not an essential, Nama is enough, and the all encompasing Nama initiation along with studies of the Srimad Bhagavatam , Caitanya Caratamrita and the Smriti of the Goswami’s bring the same meditations that the Brahminical initiation offers .
Srila Bhaktisiddanta Sarasvati Goswami Maharaja did not offer Brahminical initiation to ladies, because in India they did not generally carry out pujari or priestly duties , but they would be given Nama initiation and would intelligently study scriptures.
The Brahminical initiation and its meditations are meant to help Nama and the thread is mostly for official duties and also is shows the Vaisnava, even if coming from lower stock are as good as birth Brahminical classes and better if they become pure devotees.
Srila BR Sridhar Swami makes it clear its not essential.
AC Bhavtivedanta Swami Prabhupada gave Brahminical initiation in the West due to Western cultures and time place and circumstance.His lady disciples wanted to carry out Deity worship, and they are expert at it .
Ladies are as intelligent and devoted as men , with or without Brahminical initiation.
Night time dream day time dream , the equivalents of Nyaya
Equivalents are used in Nyaya logic…
Where there is smoke, there is fire, for instance.
Today, we could say that when we see codes and information, we know it comes from a consciousness.
Dna codes……the origins of information in these codes ,incalculably more sophisticated than computer codes, but it’s the same principle, Bill Gates notes , the fingerprint of God , said Francis Crick. Consciousness is seen equally situated in all beings .That is a self-evident truth , said Thomas Jefferson .
Life comes from life. It will never arise out of chemicals. That’s another self-evident truth . The source of the particles of consciousness is an original whole consciousness , but in absolute spiritual physics, the whole remains whole and does not diminish in any way . Simultaneously one and difference is spiritual physics. Like the sun and sun molecules without the sun , no photons of light .God is the sun , we the photons. There has never been a time that consciousness did not exist , nor in the future will it cease to be ..Matter has certain defined and changing properties. It is endlessly mutable and eternally so . Consciousness is an entirely different sort of energy , a superior energy. That’s another self-evident truth and observable fact .
We can not equate something inferior to something superior The ancients and their cultures were correctly based on dualism. Matter and consciousness, Plato taught this truth along with many Europeans from past scientific cultures. Scientific materialism is a recent construct ..and is a completely subjective speculation and is actually unscientific , it curiously practically ignores consciousness and offers no explanation apart from neurons firing , but is electronic signaling consciousness ? Ignorance is bliss , so some say , maybe this enables a madman to live in the illusion of unsuccessfully attempting to enjoy dead matter . We are the same Consciousness particle, as we were as children, but our body has changed . When we sleep and dream , our body is acting , and our consciouseness is involved in an ethereal plane , a real life , so much so that if a man embraces a woman, he can ejeculate .we see, feel , taste and hear in dreams and occasionally receive important information. Curiously, though, we completely forget our body lying in our beds in dreamland . On awakening, we remember our dream but then identify strongly with our day time body again ..At death our body is forgotten forever , but we wake up in a new one , only traces and some impressions of a previous consciousnesss conditioning is vaguely remembered . Thus, our life is a daytime dream and night-time dream . But you should ask why am I subjected to this ? And who is the who who is identifying .
It is no coincidence that the Gurukuli nama movement has begun , inspired by primarily Aindra prabhu from Sri Vrndavana Dharma it is sweeping the world in many ways . The “Gurukuli” long meditative bhajans and Nama kirtans are all the arrangements of Sri Caitanya Mahāprabhu and Nityananda prabhu , Indeed, They Themselves carried out such Kirtan with their intimate devotees .Harinama Sankirtana on the streets serve the purpose of Nityananda prabhu for the public to receive the seeds of Nama , and the trancendental sharing of the meditations of established devotees , who took birth in the movement , or who associated since childhood are a very significant way of deeply developing and growing the seeds of Krishna consciousness . Srila Prabhupada was very accustomed to regularly singing bhajans as were our Acaryas were. Many of their compositions are the direct Smriti of our acaryas. Srila Prabhupada wanted our Gurukula children to become great examples for humanity, and what has come about and what is ever increasing is this nama festival programme, and many great things will spring from that . http://www.thevedicspectator.com
If the Vedas is correct , how is it that one soul successfully arrives in the womb of a particular person or particular creature .
Nothing by chance but by design..
” Everything is happening by the supreme desire of Krishna , this consciousness is Krishna consciousness.” AC Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada
There are systems for the arrivals of each and every consciousness particle . There are chosen destinations , a chosen time and place . Each particle of consciousness in a particular body at a particular time lives out a life , like it or not .
Mankind , in current times , does pretty well at advancing in all sorts of technologies , some have the ability to direct and control extraordinary amounts of information , increasingly influencing and controlling our world around , at least some of them are controlling , the others are being influenced and controlled . The Ai and algorithmic processes have made the impossible possible, it seems . Is it too difficult to conceive of Divinities algorithmic processes ? One should, with rationality, consider the divine technological possibilities and supreme engineering capabilities to see how scientifically they may be working on an infinitely greater level and scale . The subtle and ethereal energies can not be ignored , those camped out in scientific materialism do just that .The Vedas defines that via the mind , matter and consciousness are linked and are responsive with each other within the greater responsive universe , the personalisation of the multidimensional universes is the Vedic way. Through persons come ordered systems, there is no other way .Smoke means fire in Nyaya logic.
The scientific community, for instance, has examined how a particular sperm is attracted chemically to a particular egg of the female , no other sperm can enter . There is chemical signalling that is clearly witnessed . All of the other sperm die off ….so life is a struggle from its beginning to end .. and it might take a specific time period before the circumstances click into place that fit a set of circumstances for a particular consciousness particle to be placed into the correct machine . It’s a waiting game as karmic synchronicities, and their connections are slotted into place .
We can say the specific messages that you are going to receive via the WWW are a highly complex business , but they are made easy in the technological age we currently live in .
This is explained in the following way .
“While it may seem like a needle in a haystack, directing a specific message to one person out of trillions relies on a system of unique identifiers and protocols. Each message is routed based on the recipient’s IP address, a unique numerical label assigned to their device, and the message itself is formatted according to specific communication protocols like TCP/IP, ensuring it reaches the intended destination “
Those who advocate scientific materialism also advocate that everything is happening by chance events driven by nature . The question should be, ” Who’s nature ?.
Dark energies and dark matter have the Vedic explanation , the ethereal planes are an aspect of subtle science’s described clearly in the Vedas .What goes on in such ethereal energies? Future destinations and many possibilities are being played out , free will and determinism , and operations within a universal structure. Our next destinations are already beginning to form as much as your changing algorithms are getting ready to present you with your due .
Travelling at high speed throughout our planet are countless of trillions of messages and images , i.e., Internet messages and images . The ethereal energies also carry signalling of a different kind , that of our “karmic brainwaves , and desires and deserves ” a subtle world of actions and reactions. the Vedas indicates that all to be played out later . The world of the multidimensional and responsive universes lives on , not in the minds of the disciples of the gurus of scientific materialism but within those who have an open unbiased scientific inquiring capacities of a reality of matter, mind , body and the consciousness. This is dualism. As well as many leading physicists, but not biologists, who are bogged down in primordial soup http://www.thevedicspectator.com
The differences of a person in knowledge and a person who is not can be calculated, as well as what we mean by knowledge, the Vedic description tells of knowledge of an impersonal all pervasiveness form of Divinity, His localised and more personal feature that gives everything form and substance and His confidential original forms , those that exhibit His Godhead originating in Lord Krishna. That person in knowledge of some or all these features would have acquired Jnana , or buddhi yoga , the yoga of intelligence . This knowledge is brought about in various ways and generally through many lives . Sacrifices of many kinds and following honest duties and morality ethics kindness and compassion brings knowledge very close , the honest attract truth and can easily accept truth . It is recommended in the Vedas , that a person who is inhabited by a ghost , needs to engage himself in purificatory processes of different kinds , and after acting accordingly, like an ordinary man should do , he will regain knowledge of who he is , ie . He is a man, not a ghost .When one is inhabited by ghostly elements, the ghosts affect thinking and actions and subdue the good sense of a person. By repeatedly telling the man he is not a ghost won’t do ,the ghost will overpower him . He must engage in purificatory actions to revive his true position and cast out the ghost. Karma yoga, as in Niskama karma yoga, leads to knowledge of God and knowledge of ones true self as an associate of God . The process of jnana alone is not suitable for 99.9 % of people, but by Niskama karma yoga, one automatically aquires knowledge by working correctly under the directions of the spiritual intelligentsia .The candidate can realise the original source of all energies within and outside the body . Also, how best they can be employed for the benefit of an individual and everyone else will be realised . An offering of energy back to the energetic source is the prescribed methods .By Niskama karma yoga , one soon realises the futility of temporary action within matter , and a strong realisation comes about , dualism and consciousness and its origins are gradually realised in full . Jnana or buddhi yoga are the result of pure actions. Automatically reviving pure knowledge of a person who is artificially trying to enjoy matter. The inner consciousness is not made of matter , so matter will never satisfy consciousness. The ghost like illusion of being something one is not is cleared up by Niskama karma yoga leading to pure Jnana . Then, pure Bhakti, the yoga of pure devotional service can be understood and practised to perfection, its only this which reveals one’s spiritual form in relation to God , that is carried out under the directions of a Diksa Guru and many Siksa Gurus including Sastra sanga. http://www.thevedicspectator.com
Can anyone conceive of the size of the abode of Lord Krishna ? It’s named in the Vedas as “Goloka Vrndavana.” This one planet alone is bigger than all of the combined multidimensional universes put together, of which there are billions which are simultaneously manifested . According to the Vedas, for instance, the size of the inhabitants of the higher realms of our universe and the creatures and trees are much much greater than what we are currently experiencing on this earth . It is also mentioned in Vedic historical Puranas that in different ages and time periods over millions and millions of years, the sizes of the inhabitants change . The spiritual consciousness expands greatly in a pure spiritual atmosphere and the abodes it inhabits , as do the experiences of emotions both within the spiritual body and spiritual emotional states , technically called Vibhava and Anubhava . The great spiritual abode of trancendental bliss . In Goloka Vrndavana planet , “Vrndavana village ” is the central place of trancendental rasa , there Radha Krishna along with Their intimate friends take central place Within Goloka Vrndavana and adjacent to Vrndavana are Mathura and Dwarka. These three abodes exhibit perfect , more perfect, and most perfect spiritual rasa and subsequent spiritual emotions based on spontaneous love , or more formal love mixed with worship. The predominant and main branches within Vrndavana are Krishna’s brother Balarama , along with His close associates , and most prominent is Srimati Radharani and Her friends and immediate expansions , the Asta sakhis ,eight intimate friends, Radharani’s main friends . Each branch of family and friends naturally has many other branches and many more sub branches and countless smaller branches that stem from them . There are many twig like branches, and within all these structures, there are incalculable leaves and sweet flowers .
This tree is of unimaginable size, and its widths are ever expanding . Every single spiritual personality who make up this tree , are one in their purposes , and it could be said , their emotions on many different levels are all interlinked , such is the glory and power of the all attractive couple Radha Krishna who are forever expanding Their loving affairs in multitudes of ways . Forever fresh , forever new , forever enthusistic, such is the nature of eternal youth there is no limits to youths enthusiasm.
Have you ever been outside the school gates of 14 year old girls and boys , are the playgrounds of the children or youths ever silent ? The reflections of this material tree are seen in the spiritual world .Time moves on fast here in this world , youthful life is special but like lightning. Gone in a flash .However, in Goloka Vrndavana, time is conspicuous by its absence in Goloka .It’s a big and unlimited journey on all levels.
AC Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada would give the example of a green parrot entering a green tree, the oneness and spiritual varigatedness of pranaya. The intimacies of spiritual love for all , when Radha Krishna are at the centre. He also said everything in the spiritual world is made of the same spiritual consciousness, “Cintamani ” a touchstone of spiritual bliss that is unlimitedly expanding .
mama — My; eva — certainly; aṁśaḥ — fragmental particle; jīva–loke — in the world of conditional life; jīva–bhūtaḥ — the conditioned living entity; sanātanaḥ — eternal; manaḥ — with the mind; ṣaṣṭhāni — the six; indriyāṇi — senses; prakṛti — in material nature; sthāni — situated; karṣati — is struggling hard.
Translation
The living entities in this conditioned world are My eternal fragmental parts. Due to conditioned life, they are struggling very hard with the six senses, which include the mind.
Everyone has a sense of belonging. This is situated inherently within the deepest parts of our psychological makeup. As soon as we come out of the womb, we begin identifying with someone, and we begin the process of learning to love, but we also to a degree spontaneously, love, and feel attraction. Theological students examine this loving phenomenon and seek to find its source and its perfection . They instinctively know its a lot more than neurons firing or some strange survival of the fittest instinct being played out stemming from mutations that originated in a primordial soup.
Krishna is the supreme proprietor and the original cause of all causes , He possesses innumerable qualities and is the master of them . When we are born, we instinctively love our parents to a degree but love of anyone is a learning experience.
In spiritual life, learning is love, and love is learning. There are no limits in love , and it’s this very fact that should draw us ever closer to spiritual consciousness and particularly Krishna consciousness and all it brings
Specified information within the genome is responsible for the construction of every species of life . It acts like a highly sophisticated computer code , as Bill Gates once pointed out . Any modern assembly plant has computer technology that drives robotics , and slight reprogramming will change robotic results , and adaptations occur to suit changed purposes. The very concept of mutational process that a Darwinian suggests causes speciation has no logic , because mutations degrade information not add to it , Richard Dawkins was asked to give an example of macro evolution where a mutations brought new positive and constructive information to the genome, he was lost for words .The fruit fly experiments show mutations cause crippling or death .
Krishna, through his various expansions and agencies, is the same engineer who uses similar successful engineering in many different formats , the Darwinians give a curious explanation as to why Dna and the genomes are similar throughout the species , like for example, spiders , bananas , monkeys and humans , they all. have similar information within their codes .
Why would he not .?
The gradual mutational Darwinian hypothesis is drowning is the primordial soup it originated from .. See ..
“A skilled engineer who uses the same tweaked machinery designs across a wide range of projects would likely be operating with a platform-based design strategy, modular design, or standardization. This approach has several benefits and implications: Reliability and Risk Reduction: Using designs that have been tested and verified in previous applications reduces engineering risk. Engineers are leveraging an existing knowledge base, making the resulting machinery more reliable and predictable in performance [2]. Scalability and Adaptability: The core design (the “platform”) is inherently scalable and adaptable. With minor “tweaks” (modifications), it can be tailored to meet the specific requirements of diverse applications, from automotive to aerospace to industrial manufacturing [3]. Expertise and Specialization: The engineer develops deep expertise in that specific design platform. This specialized knowledge allows for continuous improvement and innovation within that particular system, optimizing its performance across all its uses This practice is common in many industries, such as in the automotive sector where the same vehicle “platform” (chassis, engine mounts, basic electronic architecture) is used for several different models (e.g., a sedan, an SUV, and a hatchback) with tailored modifications for each market…..
What are the difficulties in understanding how and why Krishna builds bodies using successful tested and workable engineering.
Bhagavad Gita mentions these machines .. called Yantras .Bhagavad Gita 18.61
The Supreme Lord is situated in everyone’s heart, O Arjuna, and is directing the wanderings of all living entities, who are seated as on a machine, made of the material energy.
The primordial soup is not a source of high precision engineering no matter how much bubbling and lightning flashes may occur.
Information means a giver of information.
When smoke is seen in a distant hill, you know there is fire.
Synonyms mayā — by Me; tatam — pervaded; idam — this; sarvam — all; jagat — cosmic manifestation; avyakta-mūrtinā — by the unmanifested form; mat-sthāni — in Me; sarva-bhūtāni — all living entities; na — not; ca — also; aham — I; teṣu — in them; avasthitaḥ — situated.
Translation By Me, in My unmanifested form, this entire universe is pervaded. All beings are in Me, but I am not in them.
Krishna , who is known as Dhira Lalita in the Vrndavana forests , He is the young 15 year old princely boy , and a most beautiful handsome youth , his full Godly opulences are exhibited only in that realm and only to those who are in the know . It is the secret of all secrets. The most perfect of his ecstatic blissful pastimes with all his eternally situated trancendental boy and girlfriends have been revealed in full by Sri Caitanya Mahāprabhu , before His appearance the fullness and opulences of Sri Vrndavana Dharma where unknown. The greatest of the poets ,writers or those adept at understanding the intrigues of emotional dramas or those composers of wonderful musical scores that are thrilling to the inner emotions more so than words ever can , or those who can portray all kinds humours in most charming and unique ways , all of these persons may touch upon something of a spiritual realm . Comparing a hoof print of a calf to all the oceans within the universe, perhaps, does not come anywhere near the comparison of the artistry within the spiritual kingdoms to the best of the best of material artistry .The ever-increasing , ever new , spiritual emotions of the unlimited consciousness of Divinity , is shared along with the even more ever increasing emotions of the Supreme Goddess of fortune and all Their associates .The writing of the Gaudia Vaisnava acaryas reveals these trancendental events, Sri Caitanya has taught the six Goswami’s who are headed by Srila Rupa Goswami and Ragganatha das Goswami in depicting this highest of trancendental culture.
At the same time, Krishna, as Maha Visnu through his many many expansions is overseeing all events within the material universes , including our lives , or the life of an ant . Here in this world and universes, the independence of God is exhibited as well as the living beings , who desire to be an independent enjoyer. Can we compare our so-called fulfilled lives to Dhira Lalita Krishna ? Atoms , elements , and compounds take place of a soul to soul soulful exchanges of pure effection and pure love . Disturbed minds and flickering and deteriating intelligences cover the original blissful consciousness and the ambitious drive to be the big bold enjoyer are played out in the algorithmic responsive universe…..Our choice , but Krishna accompanies us as the supersoul , trying to hint , we may have made a wrong turn.
Stop generational or cultural hatred of all kinds and respect differences
Generational hatred takes a long time to shift, and obviously, Israel is currently preparing the ground for more of it, as does the USA led policy Nato expansion they are fueling a fire of hatred that will be very hard to extinguish. Misunderstandings of political ideals are common. Different cultures operate differently one cannot presume one kind is the divine way , and the extreme libertines or dogmatic theists are not in balance and certainly not so called free market capitalists, who in truth create global monopolies and centralised financial institutions. In terms of conflicts , the best of the Islamic scholars should be accepted by Hamas, the best of the Jewish scholars should be accepted by the Jewish people . Those who use religion to create violence and division and hatred are not Gods representatives. The acceptance of both faiths and their rights and their lands can be accepted by both Israeli and Palestinian people . Previously supposed priests had Jesus handed to the Romans and insisted on his crucifixion..and many supposed following of Islam think they go to heaven for murderous campaign’s of innocent bystanders. This is irreligion, of course, as was handing Jesus to the Romans. Of course, any new looks at old religious traditions are hard for the old guard or the fanatical following to accept , but truthful theological gentle souls all work together from all cultures. The truth of truth in the material atmosphere becomes lost or altered by the crooked , and they grab power . Throughout history, including theological cultures, this has occurred . it’s also not surprising. In Bhagavad Gita Krishna says again and again I come to reestablish proper religious practices , because over a course of time they get eroded by materialism and the representatives of religious traditions change the meanings or purposes of religion and it becomes politically motivated. Krishna comes personally or sends a representative. Srila Bhaktisiddanta Sarasvati Goswami Maharaja , one of the Gaudia Vaisnava acaryas, received threats to his life ,because he reintroduced truth , and the establishment of the Gaudia Vaisnava’s in the West still can not be understood by many established traditions in India . So much so that Western people are not allowed into some Indian temples . AC Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada’s applications of Krishna consciousness in the West could not be understood even by his own Godbrothers in some cases . In the case of Jesus, the Jewish priests were cursed, and they were wrong , we can see the success of the preaching of Jesus worldwide .
Still, traditions can and should be carefully respected , and the people of old traditions can be respected in humble ways . There is no need for violence and hatred ,that is the demoniac solution, understandings should be encouraged , paying respect to one and all, and tollerance are the teachings of Jesus , that teaching is contained in every religion. Both Hamas and the Israelis can learn from that , as can many cultures or religiously inspired theological cultures.
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