Srila Visvanatha Cakravati Thakur indicates in his Bhagavad Gita Chapter 4 text 10 that by performing jnana tapasya, one can attain realisations of the eternal nature and appearance of Divinity. “One becomes purified by austerity in the form of tolerating the burning poison of wrong ideas or thinking , wrong logic, and wrong arguments.” he says . The Gaudia Vaisnava acaryas have some stalwart scholars amongst them Srila Rupa Goswami, Srila Jiva Goswami to begin with and of course Srila Visvanatha Cakravati Thakur and in recent times ,Srila Bhaktivinod Thakur, Srila Bhaktisiddhanta Sarasvati Goswami, Srila BR Sridhar Swami and the extremely intelligent and very practical Srila AC Bhavtivedanta Swami who miraculously brought Krishna consciousness all over the world inspiring and teaching some of his leading disciples…
Ramanuja acaryas says wise persons give up attachments, effections or fears, or anger for those who speak nonsensical ways , because the wise are throughly absorbed in meditations, hearing, chanting and singing and speaking of the glories of Krishna and His associates and cannot really be disturbed .
Material calculations of every kind ….within modern societies
Much unthinking much speculation.
Mass education in the West centred around scientific materialism and Darwinian hypothesis is facilitating lots of unoriginal and unthinking persons , each of whom follow like sheep or lemmings off a cliff previously established speculative persons. They generally think the piece of paper they call a degree makes them smart , generally such person who even have higher degrees or PHD’S step up as government advisors and bring with them their unoriginal and unthinking minds . If we take a look at Western societies and their governance and compliance systems and see the mess they get the world in . The sciences they continue to present , their unthinking ideas , to other unthinking persons , in the name of objective sciences , although they are clearly not , then its no wonder that the great and very honest and objective Richard Feynman said “that you can have a pocket full of PHD’S and still be a complete idiot “… http://www.thevedicspectator.com
Srila Gour Govinda Swami was fond of referring to the Caitanya Caratamrita wherein its stated that Sri Caitanya Mahāprabhu has infused the names with Vraja prema pure love of God , ..and He garlanded the whole world , in other words everyone can access and experience easily pure blissful love . Srila Jiva Goswami in the Tattva Sandarbha says Lord Krishna accepts names given to Him by His devotees . He accepts names because of the Bhakti or devotion of His devotees. Mahāprabhu chanted many names of God , which He had accepted, when He appeared He enthuses them all with prema Rasa of Vrndavana. So , although the names of God when chanted purely have always brought relationships with God ,when Mahāprabhu came , He revealed the most perfect of all spiritual relationships , the most perfect of all perfects . This trancendental experience is exhibited by the residents of Vrndavana, and they are all situated in pure spontaneous love free from any awe and reverence. Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu brought newer and newer meaning to what it means to love God . He revealed all the mysteries of pure love and how to understand simply by chanting the names of God purely. Chanting is the means and the end of spiritual perfection the Gaudia Vaisnava acaryas say .The Pranaya of Manjari bhava , the servants of Srimati Radharani has been revealed, its they who understand the supreme abode of love , the heart of Srimati Radharani . Such intimacies are revealed through the process of chanting the names , this is the essence of Mahāprabhu’s teachings . Through the nine fold processes of devotion that are written by Srila Rupa Goswami , from the Srimad Bhagavatam and Pralada Maharaja’s teachings which begin with and end in chanting and meditations of Radha Krishna lila , everything is understood. Our acaryas give indications of the newly enthused and spiritually surchanged and old Maha Mantra . With Hare Krishna coming first , instead of Hare Rama first . The competition of the love between the Radha Krishna of Vrndavana is revealed , but in their most perfect parakiya Rasa . Sri Caitanya Mahāprabhu chanted Hare Krishna and also many other names of God . Through the teachings of Mahaprabhu to Rupa Ragganatha and the Goswami’s of Vrndavana this Maha Mantra meditation has been revealed. Srila Bhaktisiddhanta Sarasvati Goswami made efforts to formalise and regulate , the methods of regulated chanting . Srila Ragganatha das set an example and chanted in scheduled ways , as did Haridas Thakur. Srila BR Sridhar Swami says the above …in regards to some historical information.
Commenting on this enigma, Srila Sridhara Deva Gosvami Maharaja has stated as follows:
“The real importance of the Name is not to be found merely in the arrangement of its syllables, but in the deep meaning within that divine sound. Some scholars argue that in the Kali-santarana Upanisad, Lord Brahma says that the Hare Krsna maha-mantra is properly pronounced only when the Name of Rama precedes the Name of Krsna:
hare rama hare rama rama rama hare hare hare krsna hare krsna krsna krsna hare hare
“In the Kali-santarana Upanisad, the Hare Krsna maha-mantra is given in that way. But to say that the Name of Rama must precede the Name of Krsna in the mantra is a superficial understanding.
“It is said that because it comes from the Upanisads, the Hare Krsna mantra is a Vedic mantra, and therefore, because the ordinary people may not have any entrance into Vedic mantras, Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu readjusted this mantra by reversing the order of the words. In that way, it is said that the concern that it is a Vedic mantra is thereby cancelled, and so Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu gave it to all persons without breaching the injunctions of the Vedas. Some devotees in Uttar Pradesh who have great affection for Sri Caitanyadeva like to give this opinion. But Srila BR Sridhar Swami faith says that the mentioning of ‘Hare Rama’ first is only superficial. It concerns the idea that since the Rama avatara appeared first and the Krsna avatara afterwards, the Name of Rama, ‘Hare Rama,’ should come first in the maha-mantra.’
“A deeper reading will consider that when two similar things are connected together, the priority will be ordered not on the basis of historical precedent, but in consideration of the most highly developed conception. The Holy Name of Krsna is higher than the Holy Name of Rama. This is mentioned in the Puranas: three Names of Rama equal one Name of Krsna.’
“The Name of Krsna is superior to the Name of Rama. Where the two are connected together, the first position should be given to the one that is superior. Therefore, the Name of Krsna must come first in the maha-mantra. This is one point.’
“Another point is that within the eternal plane, everything is moving in a cyclic order. In an eternal cycle, which is first and which is next cannotbe ascertained, and so, in the eternal plane of lila, it cannot be determined whether Krsna is before Rama or Rama is before Krsna So, from that consideration also, since the Names of Krsna and Rama are eternal and unrelated to any historical event, we may begin the mantra from any place.’
“But above these considerations, our sampradaya has given another, higher consideration. A deeper understanding will reveal that the Hare Krsna mantra is not at all concerned with rama-lila.’
“In the Name of Rama within the Hare Krsna mantra, the Gaudiya Vaisnavas will find Radha-ramana Rama. That means, ‘Krsna, who gives pleasure (raman) to Srimati Radharani.’ In our conception, the Hare Krsna mantra is wholesale Krsna consciousness, not Rama consciousness.’
“Sri Caitanya’s highest conception of things is always svayam bhagavan, krsna-lila, radha-govinda-lila. That is the real purpose of Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu’s advent and teachings. In that consideration, the Hare Krsna mantra does not mention the rama-lila of Ayodhya at all. There is no connection with that in the highest conception of the Hare Krsna mantra.’
“And the inner conception of the mantra is responsible for our spiritual attainment. When one pronounces the Name of Rama, if he means Dasarathi Rama, his attraction will take him there, to Ayodhya; if he means Parasurama, he will be attracted to another place. And if Rama means Radha-ramana Rama, he will go to Goloka. The inner conception of the devotee will guide him to his destination.” (Loving Search For The Lost Servant) of their devotion.
Mahāprabhu chanted many names of God , which He accepts and enthuses with Rasa . So although names of God when chanted purely have always brought relationship with God , however Mahāprabhu has given new meaning , the Pranaya of Manjari bhava and the abode of love Srimati Radharani is somewhat revealed , through the names that Mahāprabhu has accepted. Our acaryas give indication of the newly enthused and changed order of the Maha mantra. With Hare Krishna first , and the Radha Krishna of Vrndavana revealed , in their most perfect Rasa . So Mahāprabhu chanted Hare Krishna and many other names , but through Rupa Ragganatha and the Goswami’s taught this Mantra ….and Srila Bhaktisiddhanta Sarasvati Goswami made efforts to formalise and regulate , also Srila Ragganatha das chanted in scheduled ways , as did Haridas Thakur.
Subjective opinions of how best to engage in devotional services to Krishna are accepted by Him and His pure representatives if they align in pure love .Such love automatically and spontaneously aligns a devotees’ heart with the absolute, they will know in advance and be fully conscious of what is pleasing , such devotional efforts will be soaked with devotional sentiments and truth .There will be a complete absence of localised interests, thus they are all immediately harmonized with the absolute spiritual objective reality of a spiritual kingdom, and relished by Srimati Radharani, Sri Krishna and Their unlimited family and friends. We could say in the words of Srila BR Sridhar Swami the subjective communes with the super subjective..
Much more on the developing devotional service soon .
The Srimad Bhagavatam reinforces the importance of recognizing bone fide theological texts from all the religious cultures that distinguish reality from illusion for the welfare of all beings . This recognition is based on dualism and the need for a scientific approach to what consciousness is . Enquiries into spiritual cultures and philisophical thoughts is essentially something that satisfy the inner human spirit on so many different levels . Western cultures that are unnecessary slanted in extreme and overly extravagant ways , geared at satisfying unbridled minds and unbridled senses , that have been promoted by atheistic speculators , who also teach scientific materialism and Darwinian hypothesis as fact based sciences , have a lot to answer for . Every theological text places an emphasis on regulated and disciplined lives . Control of minds and senses opens up the consciousness to its full communicative potential with not only other humans but potentially with Divinity Himself . Humans are not supposed to live like sophisticated animals, and ultra liberalism is always condemned , but so are those that claim to be religious, but who cannot see the true equality of all beings or who show disregard for other cultures and theologies .Unbridled senses lead to greater anxiety and entanglements , something businessmen are clueless about, and they dont care . The Vedas recognize every theological text and religious culture that pursues and teaches these types of lifestyle . These methods of gradually developing scientific realisations about our consciousness are systematically explained in the Vedas . For example , karma yoga , jnana yoga , astanga yoga, and Bhakti yoga bring us these different approaches . In other words, consciousness development through 1, Good works linked to recognised pious activities, and that elevates our consciousness. 2 . Seeking knowledge through science , philosophy, and learning of the mind , matter and consciousness , and 3 , Deep inward religious or spiritual meditations on God leading to an esoteric plane . The Bhagavatam seeks to link all these different processes to Bhakti or direct devotion to Divinity in services and a development of love . These systematic processes , when followed properly , they bring progressive steps that benefit the individual, and pure knowledge of dualism is thoroughly revived, leading to knowledge and remembering God with degrees of love . These truths of the Bhagavatam are specifically taught by Sri Caitanya Mahāprabhu , whose hidden appearance is predicted in the 11th canto of the Bhagavatam as the incarnation for this age . He taught that one should study the Bhagavatam in the association of self realised persons and follow prescribed methods . Chanting the Hare Krishna Maha Mantra , or any of the names of God in current times , the Bhagavatam says , can quickly bestow all the truths of the Vedas upon persons who can chant without offence and in great humility . It is said in many theological texts sound can bind one or liberate one , if one speaks in anger and envy one is bound in ignorance , if one speaks in peace and knowledge and compassion one can become liberated and full of knowledge. In this way, there are incalculable benefits when one vibrates any trancendental sound vibrations that properly glorify God with sincerity. They have effects on the inner workings of our consciousness , and truth follows truth . When one has become purified by such trancendental sounds , one’s community , one’s society , one’s country , and ultimately the universal order and its originator Divinity are all immensely pleased . By such purified actions of speaking truth and vibrating Gods names in a sacrifice with the aim of serving Gods interests , as well as studying and hearing the trancendental sounds of the Srimad Bhagavatam everyone’s life becomes perfected . HIGHLIGHTED IN 1.1.2 THE CULTURE OF PURE DEVTION AS OPPOSED TO MIXED MOTIVATED OR CHEATING DECEITFUL SO CALLED DEVOTION . RSABDEVA TAUGHT NOT TO BECOME TEACHER. PARENT HUSBAND FATHER , UNLESS YOU CAN DELIVER DEPENDENTS BACK TO GÒDHEAD.
5.4×10235.4 cross 10 to the 23rd power5.4×1023 or 540,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 miles.
Modern science assumes the universe three dimensional. However, the Vedas brings us to the realisations of the multidimensional universe . So , the measurement of the Vedic universe incorporates aspects of the universe that are near and yet far away from limited senses . Certainly, there are red shift anomalies in the calculations of modern science, Red shifts appear much closeer than they are expected, as Sadaputa prabhu, of Dr Richard Thompson, mentioned in his book on Vedic cosmology . Are the stars so far away ? on one level , maybe , on another level, maybe not .
For instance, the Vedic cosmological calculations describe multidimensional space , and only 800 miles above this planet, an Upadeva planet exist in their own particular dimension , mystics and yogis can at times commune or even commute the this plane .
The greatly renowned Vedic cosmological scholar in Gaudiya Vaisnavism says this ..
“Srila Bhaktisiddhanta Saraswati Goswami Thakura, recognized as a master of both Siddhantic Vedic astronomy and Puranic literature, provided specific measurements regarding the size of the universe based on classical Vedic texts
. He maintained that the universe is vast, egg-shaped (brahmanda), and, while immense, is only one of innumerable universes in the material creation.
Measurements and Structure
Circumference: Citing the Siddhanta-siromani, Srila Bhaktisiddhanta Saraswati gave the circumference of this universe as 18,712,069,200,000,000×818 comma 712 comma 069 comma 200 comma 000 comma 000 cross 818,712,069,200,000,000×8 miles.
Diameter: The inner part of the universe is described as having a diameter of approximately 5,956,200 crore yojanas (roughly 47,649,600 billion miles), according to traditional interpretations.
Enveloping Layers: The universe is not just the inner space but is enveloped by seven material layers—water, fire, air, space, mind, intelligence, and ego. Each layer is ten times thicker than the previous one.( these layers could be understood as the potentials of the atomic and quantum realms ready to respond to the needs of the classical physical world)
Total Size: When accounting for these seven layers, the total diameter is calculated as over 5×10145 cross 10 to the 14th power5×1014 billion miles, which is often interpreted as approximately 90 billion light-years.
Perspective on Cosmology
Inconceivable Size: He emphasized that these dimensions are inconceivable to the tiny brain of a human being and cannot be fully measured by human scientists.
Innumerable Universes: He highlighted that this universe is considered the smallest among the innumerable universes, which exist in the material creation.
Vs. Modern Science: He supported the view of the universe as a round sphere (bhu-mandala) by citing authorities like the Surya Siddhanta, Siddhanta Siromani, and Aryabhata.
Purpose of Knowledge: He taught that the ultimate purpose of this knowledge is not mere physical measurement, but to recognize the supreme potency of God (Kṛṣṇa).
In summary, Srila Bhaktisiddhanta Saraswati presented the Vedic view of a very large, layered, and multi-layered universe that is relatively small compared to the total material, and ultimately, spiritual creation. “
Mrs Thatcher was wrong to suggest that society, particularly business persons , require light touch regulations that would bring trickle down economics , Keynesian economics , she supposed them the great benefactors for everyone. The reality is that government administrations are required to not only understand the psychological make up of a business man and their limited thinking capacities but also legislate in numerous ways such businessmen who are, after all, by nature, ruthless money men who do anything to turn a profit and I mean anything . The businessman indeed serve a valuable purpose in society, but other purposes are far greater .Their particular talents need regulating so everyone in a society can benefit. Everyone has to work and maintain themselves , but in this case small is beautiful and highly beneficial , everything should be localised and personalised and greater purposes to work can be understood and the benefits of communities will be felt . Business persons serve as but one link in a greater society , not a predominant one . Left to themselves , unregulated greed , excessive encroachments , as well as exploitation of every kind , even killing as well as fixed markets develop , not the genuine free markets , but rather monopolies . Giving businessman freedoms as Mrs Thatcher suggests leads to excessively high profits in every area of an economic systems including financial institutions and banks . Business conglomerates begin to run and control governments. They fund political parties and infiltrate democracies controlling them as well as media stations that begin to sing to their tune . Lobbying becomes the norm, and governments become the servants of the business communities . It goes without saying businessmen have no time for the intelligentsia both in the theological fields and otherwise .The intelligensia by nature have concerns for every living being, including the creatures and the environment they live in .The highest of the intelligentsia also know that consciousness development in matters of philisophical and theological sciences as well as objective sciences are essential for everyone to be educated in . Economic development is one essential, but understanding dualism as well as the greater and deeper strivings that will bring satisfaction and peace is the real need of humans . Money doesn’t bring everything, and it never will , excessive greed brings conflict and grief for one and all , and greed should never run countries or have a policy set around it . So let’s put business where it belongs , not in artificial places . Business persons are not capable of giving beneficial directions for the world or its people. http://www.thevedicspectator.com
dharmasya hy āpavargyasya nārtho ’rthāyopakalpate nārthasya dharmaikāntasya kāmo lābhāya hi smṛtaḥ
All occupational engagements are certainly meant for ultimate liberation. They should never be performed for material gain. Furthermore, according to sages, one who is engaged in the ultimate occupational service should never use material gain to cultivate sense gratification.
Unfortunately, in Western politics , where the business man predominant and pays for political stooges who do their bidding , whole civilizations are being misdirected by greed . Money money money brighter that sunshine sweeter that honey is the motto for fools and worldwide leaders .
These rascals and fools who are supposed leaders of society have sold themselves out to the Devil.
We can see through this verse occupations are meant for much greater purposes. Actually they are an impetus for strivings for the greatest good for oneself, one’s family and one’s society.
Society should always always be localised, and networking businesses interact with each other and support each other . A forest of trees are in support of each other , their roots are joined, giving each other support and helping nourish each other .
In a forest of a million smaller fir trees, we don’t want them cut down or replaced by one giant Redwood tree . Life is made up of smaller localised units, that’s natures way and everything, and everyone gets a far share and a fair crack of the whip . Working liberates people makes them feel good and brings rewards of many sorts . The poisoning of society over the last 200 or so years has brought increasingly instabilities in numerous ways , both on the people and the planet, along with its inhabitants. Work is meant for far deeper things than supposed by the unthinking and unintelligent global conglomerate.
The Vedic revival currently underway is destined to sweep away the dirt of greed and replace it with interlinked and caring and supportive environments .The intelligentsia know how , the citizens should not be fools who vote in fools who are stooges and servants of darkness, but rather look , understand, and clearly see light , the educational revolution is underway.
The “oneness “of a family or community can be experienced in ones life or the “oneness” or a particular relationship with a particular member of a family or community member can be had .
Similarly it could be thought that Sri Caitanya Mahāprabhu brings us His Sankirtana movement and within the congregational chanting we can begin to experience everyone in their relationships and services to Krishna, ultimately that is where congregational chanting brings us in purity , whether we realise it or not we are within Krishna’s lilas , and we are participating, the Holy Name of Krsna is non different full spiritual planes are within including ourselves when we apply ourselves to Nama Sankirtana, although we may not yet know it , but an inkling may awaken . Personal Jappa meditation may bring an individual to a more ” personal pranaya ” with a deep relationship and an aspiration to serve intimately particular personalities within Goloka Vrndavana , as revealed though the Sruti of the Acarya , and ultimately through the Holy Name and divine grace. The Holy names can bring anything at any time , there are no hard and fast rules they need to abide by , so congregational chanting or Jappa chanting follow no particular set format . One should chant following in the footsteps of the Gaudia Vaisnava acaryas and understand their meditations and lives .
Some persons keep emotions to themselves others freely display them , genuine spiritual emotions develop in time for all persons , as Srila BR Sridha Swami says, irresistibly you will find attraction for the all attractive one , KRISHNA means all attractive.
The all-inclusive pages of the Srimad Bhagavatam of the Gaudia Vaisnava. Srila AC Bhavtivedanta Swami Prabhupada has , under the directions of Srila Bhaktisiddanta Sarasvati Goswami Maharaja and Srila Bhaktivinod Thakur , and ultimately the direction of Sri Caitanya Mahāprabhu who had empowered the six Goswami’s of Vrndavana, presented the Srimad Bhagavatam to the world. It is the natural commentary on the Bramha Sutra, the condensed form of the four Veda . The original Vedas that Veda Vyasa brought into four sections. The Bhagavatam contains the teachings also of the Puranas, the Itihasas, including the Mahabharata. It is important to note that many substantial practical lessons are contained for a systematic development of spiritual culture for everyone of all occupations or spiritual standing . One may wonder why the Bhagavatam contains mention of material and spiritual circumstances, but Krishna intends to come amongst us and teach us , He appears like one of us at times .The Bhagavatam brings to our attention the descriptions of many varieties of spiritual planes along with the different relationships the living beings enjoy in association with Divinity in His many appearances and expansions , as well as with His many families and friends…
The smiling face of the Bhagavatam , which are just over twenty chapters of the confidential pastimes of Krishna in His Dhira Lalita form, are purposely minimal but are elaborated upon in the Smriti of the Gaudia Vaisnava acaryas , headed by Srila Rupa Goswami and Ragganatha das Goswami.
Every relationship with Divinity is glorious in their own way, and so are the devotees who have preferences for particular relationships or forms of Divinity.
The Bhagavatam is a practical guide for everything and everyone, that’s why it’s been granted and presented to all people by Krishna. It applies to everyday living but also trancendental living , everything is spiritual in its own way . Thus, the Bhagavatam brings the peripherals and the cor together . We can not just present the cor , and neither can we just present the peripherals.
The expert Bhagavat , personification of the Bhagavatam knows the art of both the cor and peripherals .
Thus, AC Bhaktivedanta Swami’s society ISKCON has its footprints all over the world and is systematically bringing the understanding of all things spiritual.
It’s not the technical society as such but individuals within it as well as those who are loosely connected to it , including those from other Gaudia Vaisnavas groups who know what AC Bhavtivedanta Swami is doing , under the order of Srila Bhaktisiddanta Sarasvati Goswami Maharaja, and why , and they all bow down before him .
Correct understanding of the spiritual is way beyond and deeper than “knowledge of technical languages .
In entering and understanding Radha Krishna Nitya lila pastimes getting the correct Sanskrit word meaning obviously is somewhat essential to fully describe the specific lilas that are described from the writings of the acaryas who are literally spiritually immersed within the lila and relishing all the mellows , perfectly describing them due to their pure love in Bhakti yoga .
For instance, when Krishna approaches Srimati Radharani through his ecstatic glance ,within the township of Vrndavana, if one mistranslates the Sanskrit and literally has Krishna walking up and approaching Radharani , it would an incorrect translation . In the company of Radharani’s mother in law and others who are not directly involved in knowledge of particular pastimes, Krishna could and never would walk directly up to Srimati Radharani . However, He and She may approach each other by lightning glances that are described by the Rasika acaryas. The ultimate essence and relishing of the mellows of pure devotional lilas , Srila Bhaktisiddhanta Sarasvati Goswami Maharaj says , can’t be experienced by any other process than the decending process , or being allowed to enter Krishna lila through the pure chanting of the Names and of rendering services of all kinds to those Gaudia Vaisnava acaryas who have shown by their prayers and examples their services to Radharani and Krishna . Or through the friends of Krishna, but that process is of purely remembering the eternal spiritual lilas that may decend by their own sweet will . It is , however, obviously important and may assist meditations to understand how exactly the acayas have described in their trancendental trances specific pastimes.
We cannot neglect or minimise these technicalities of language, but we can also remember, its not merely by such technicalities that one enters into Krishna lila, but only through grace and development of pure Bhakti which is bestowed by Bhakti devi and the pure devotees of Krishna, the causless mercy.
Mercy above justice , as Srila BR Sridhar Swami once said .
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