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Betrand Russell says .

Bertrand Bertrand says  some things are considered truth because people feel they are truth , and thus, objective science is required to dispell sentiment. As Einstein says .

Religion without science is blind and science without religion is lame…

Yes, Betrand, that’s why the Discovery Institute and the Bhaktivedanta Institute are doing such a great job , providing objective scientific evidence that points to the Nyaya logical systems. That is, if  there is smoke , there is fire .
An honest person seeking truth sees  clearly and will have insight into truth  . The problem comes when a dishonest person is seeking his own truth and spends billions of dollars convincing an innocent public that he is presenting truth , when in reality his scientific presentation is a subjective opinion of how an objectively seen  scientific world  is functional , such dishonest observers for instance say , if you see any traces of intelligence or design in the creation,  ignore it .

” From whatever and wherever the mind wanders due to its flickering and unsteady nature, one must certainly withdraw it and bring it back under the control of the Self. The nature of the mind is flickering and unsteady. But a self-realized yogi has to control the mind; the mind should not control him.: “

THE greatest of the psychologists , and actually the personality who originates  the material mind , via His Annirudha expansion coming from  His Mahavishnu form , should be consulted , that’s Krishna.  If we really want to understand psychological processes and the  purposes  of the  mind,  is many fold . In material nature , a mind spends a lot of its time in the duality of the material world , accepting and rejecting objects of the senses , based entirely on selfish actions , either directly selfish , or selfishness connected to family , friends  , community or country.

Thus the minds activities allows for a  free reign and the free will enters  into the many possibilities of the quantum atomic plane, because what the mind wants , takes time to manifest , it may take years or many lives to come to fruition,  , thus the  finer ethereal plane of a mind , enters into the many possibilities of the atomic quantum plane , before it can    manifest in the classical plane that  we currently experience and  then become part of the lives we lead , all this with the added complexity of  karmic synchronicity influences , or as the astrological influence , that means things happen in our lives we did not bargain for , but our minds contemplation and our actions bring reactions,  good and  bad .  As such, the Supreme psychologist must be consulted so we can all understand ,  just exactly where our minds are best situated , thus, Krishna speaks Bhagavad Gita ,and gives the ultimate rundown on mind and psychology.

That’s a complex topic to understand. It also comes  with a range of  relative answers , according to a prescription that is appropriate to a particular state of a conscious being . The Supreme psychologist Krishna, in His conversation with Arjuna on the battlefield of Kuruksetra, touches upon all the ranges and methods of controlling and understanding the mind . The Vedas elaborate further on these topics of psychology.

Divinity brings wisdom and knowledge to everyone in three ways,  through the krpa ( mercy) of Sastra ( theological texts ).and through the person Bhagavat ( a person realised in the wisdom of the sastra )  and also Krishna is situation within the heart ,and knows all the bodies ,along with their mentalities and entanglements.

One who knows that Krishna knows all bodies is in knowledge.

ksetra-jnam capi mam viddhi
sarva-ksetresu bharata
ksetra-ksetrajnayor jnanam
yat taj jnanam matam mama

TRANSLATION

O scion of Bharata, you should understand that I am also the knower in all bodies, and to understand this body and its owner is called knowledge. That is My opinion.

Newton said time was absolute

Einstein said it was relative .

Time is absolute on the absolute plane .
And relative on a relative plane .

So, both aspects  of time are simultaneously existing , the Vedas indicate , one caused by a movement of matter , one caused by a movement of every increasing loving exchange , unadulterated by a mutable mass .

Relative means a measurement of allocated activities, imposed in a relative plane , on a particle of consciousness , surrounded by matter ,  along with  other living beings,  that are also affected by time , but at different rates of decay . Relative will  also mean according to where one is situated in a  universe, because the  laws of physics and accordingly time measurement and deteriation  feels and works  differently in the lower ,middle, or upper parts of the universe .

A mayfly, for instance, thinks it’s self to have a full  complete life ,  but compared to the engineer of the universe, Brahma , his 12 hours  are equivalent to 4.5 billion of our years , there is a vast difference between the two , yet relatively,  both are satisfied ,although one life is considerably less complicated, and with far fewer interactions.

On the absolute plane, in a spiritual existence, there appears to be time, but at the same time, everything is ever new and one is  forever and  increasingly enthusiastic , thinking  feeling  and experiencing , with a  consciousness  and senses that are  not subjected to  conditioned  matter ,  along with  its many influences and limitations of  the  physical  body or material mind .  Rather, newer and newer exhilarating emotions , spiritually sensual as if never experienced emotions,    ever increasing ,  with no limits  take  place , along with other  personalities who have no limits to the depths of  their personalities and artistry.

These have been discussed in the Vedas , where for instance,  a Truti is discussed, a Truti is the time is takes the sun to pass over an atom , also discussed is the  311 trillion years of the Complete life of the chief engineer of this particular universe Bramha

Formally, nation states printed and issued currency , and working  people invested their time and energies building family ,communities, and nation states , bringing peace and prosperous surroundings.

That was the historical Vedic way of life , where a life was based on values of a different nature , than today’s goals of dreams of a crypto portfolio and commodities portfolio and a property portfolio,  and no thoughts  for local communities or the development of wealth of an up and coming community generated locally for the benefit of local the people . Wealth is now exported and given over to global financial companies , which use it ruthlessly and in harmful ways , basically people are lending money or buying shares in global companies who pillage the earth , its people, and its creatures.

The house market worldwide is organised in such a way that the young are enslaved due to hyped up house prices and high rents , a fixed market , not a free market , there is no free market economy,  its a conglomerate of mutual interest groups , who claim they are competing , and central governments are party to it .

The Vedic economics systems are based on localised free market economics,  local and national interests , and financial management of countries investing in the countries’ currencies and not exported to the dodgy dealers  of an unregulated crypto market ,or commodities dealers ,draining the power of countries and giving it over to those ,who should not  either issue currency , or do not have anyone’s interest but themselves when manipulating the commodities markets .The pure head of state has his peoples good fortune in mind and should only be  issuing currency, there should be  locally controlled fair trading , and that cannot be said of crypto dealers or issuers of their currencies or major conglomerates and finical Institutions,  all of which operate with light touch governance and well known insider trading.

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ISKCON, and its silent history , a story that probably needs telling officially..
Aug 6th, 2024
So far, an accurate and objective account has not been fully written or any official acknowledgement of any mistakes that were made during the late 70s and 80s with those difficult early days of ISKCON, when Prabhupāda finished his services, externally, having established ISKCON. Directing Guru Tattva independently of traditions of Gaudia Vaisnavism is a serious charge , and was not what the founder acarya of ISKCON His Divine Grace AC Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada wanted to happen , this has to be acknowledged officially.

Every historical account written by our Gaudia acaryas that are contained in the Sruti will differ from what ISKCON did in 1979 . So why was a zonal acarya system set up , How did it come about ? or who instigated it ? We are left with a silent history or at most vague hints at what happened and why or who did it .

Of course, they were difficult days, the men and ladies were young , inexperienced, unfamiliar with Vedic culture , so we are not particularly laying any personal blame , we should give the benefit of the doubt , but history has to be told in clear ways and admittance to mistakes should be acknowledged and how they came about .

Questions will follow , such as who insisted those giving initiations had to be in a Sannyasa ashram. It appears that in order to keep the management body strong in ISKCON, guru tattva and management of the society were linked hand in hand , at that time, the majority of GBC men were sannyasa and as the GBC appointed themselves as exclusive gurus , extrapolated from one breif conversation , with Prabhupada, as to Ritvics becoming regular Gurus , but those GBC in the room then extrapolated something that was not there, that that was an exclusive order , and Prabhupada there and then appointed them the Diksa Gurus of ISKCON.

In doing so, they thought that the balance of grhasta GBC men must be ordered to take sannyasa in order to function as a Initiating Diksa Guru .

Other Questions, who insisted that to understand Tattva and practical application of sastra devotees could not approach Srila Sridhar Swami, although Prabhupada told them to ? And who later declared Srila Sridhar Swami an enemy of ISKCON , because he had clearly told the GBC not to exclusively have a limited guru system, but rather , applying sastra , anyone able and reasonably qualified could initiate , if prospective students requested them to do so , The GBC , at that time became belligerent and head strong , but Srila Sridhar Swami advised disgruntled disciples to be patient with them , and if they didn’t change , form a body to approach them for significant change to reflect the proper application of scripture , I believe this was the beginnings of a guru reform movement . Also, unfortunately, many good devotees like HH Tripurari swami , because they wanted Siksa from Srila Sridhar Swami and to their credit would not give him up , were told to leave ISKCON.

Srila Sridhar Swami was sincerely helping Srila Prabhupada and only doing what Prabhupada asked of him to assist with matters of philosophies and traditions of Gaudia Vaisnavism.

When Gurus fell away , reinitiation was made practically compulsory, , no discussion of Dika and Siksa tatttva was offered, which is the proper way of dealing with those who needed more mature spiritual guidance , after it became clear their Diksa Gurus could not sufficiently guide them , Diksa took prominence , that is an incorrect understanding of applications of Sastra , although reinitiation is recommended if the guru becomes a complete non devotee .

One thing , to all the early devotees credit, even though mistakes were made , that jeopardised the faith of spiritual lives of many , ISKCON stayed together as a society and is still functioning world wide in wonderful ways . Its my belief that this is due to many reasons, including and primarily because Prabhupada wanted it to , and also its the desire of Srila Bhaktivinod Thakur and Srila Bhaktisiddanta Sarasvati Goswami Maharaja, its also my belief that over the many years the so called enemies of ISKCON, Srila Sridhar Swami and Srila Narayana Maharaja, have greatly helped ISKSON, to stabalise and to advance Prabhupada’s movement. Indeed, they were great friends of Prabhupada.

I would also like to see official acknowledgement of these events , to record its history and to make sure misunderstandings are cleared up and Tattva is understood clearly and always understood. Currently its my understanding , that there is still an over emphasise on the position of Diksa , and also a misunderstanding of the need of devotees of studying our acaryas literatures and also still misunderstanding of our origins , which is with Krishna in His expansion as Balarama, Ultimately we came from a spirtual world, because Balarama is in the Spiritual world , but He is offering us service there , those that did not take the offer , experienced the Mahavishnu aspect of Balarama, through the three Visnu forms overseeing the independent jivas within the material worlds .

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The Vedas describes the I , me. Mine concept.

But how should we understand I , me , and mine .

Who is  the ” I ” ?

And what do you mean when you say  ” that’s me ” ?

And  just exactly what do you mean when you say  it’s yours ?  ,  or you say ” that’s mine “

The philosophies of the Vedas encourages us all to think deeply about , who we  are in reality,  they encourage us to think outside the box , and face the reality of a changing body , with changing possessions  as well as changing minds along with a growing or diminishing intelligence ,  it encourages us to  question why ?

If we dont approach these sorts of  questions seriously,  and ignore them , one might say we become rather like a sophisticated animal , with a very narrow understanding of life ,  based on a body and its immediate needs , is it a waste of  the human form of life , might it  be a mistake , not to search for  answers , The Vedas say such inquiry opens  up doors to greater places for our consciousness , places where consciousness expands into a form , made of pure consciousness,  and which is full of varieties of  increasing experiences.

The modern industrial Globalists , along with  sponsored universities,  don’t want you to ask these questions , rather they want you to think more and more in terms of you being a chance mutation , with neurons firing in a brain,  that are constantly in want of satisfying.

The Vedas and other theological sciences have an entirely different take on I , me , mine .

Find out , pick up a copy of the Bhagavad Gita with the explanations of Gaudia Vaisnavism teachers , and find out about consciousness outside of the bodily needs .

Divinity also has consciousness, but His consciousness is experienced to the full , beyond atoms ,elements ,compounds and molecules.

Find out where .

Western societies are subject to and are exposed to  biased information of all kinds , certainly, we live in a world of deceit and hypocrisy . The  freedom agendas of  Western governments is the  popular spin , in reality, though , and its becoming well known , the leaders , because of being in the pockets of liberal business driven oligarchs never really apply governance and compliance for the people’s benefits , rather everything is skewed in the direction of global conglomerates . Unfortunate it is  that 90% of the populations are easily fooled .

The  Darwinian narrative provides us with a good example of how an educational system is teaching a speculative hypothesis as fact based science,  although micro evolution is acceptable and natural macro evolution is not at all scientifically seen , rather something quite different.

Most people do not understand the implications of the fake political agenda, ‘s, neither do people understand objective science . The Vedic emphasis is always,  on finding truth , and truth is found in the hearts of the genuine intellectual persons , who have knowledge of body ,  mind ,  and consciousness,  such persons work and supervise the work of the Vipras , who are  genuinely independent scholars in particular feilds.

Putting in simple terms. one can  not grant freedom to a child , for fear of the child coming to harm , society needs supervision  by the intelligentsia.

So ,  without  philosophical,  scientific and a thorough theological education ,   Einstein  himself thought theological insights give a essential contribution to knowledge , and  without such wisdom , allowing for an instant libertarian approach,  and carte blanch freedoms to just about everyone,  is  causing  great harm  both singularly and communionally .

The  world is in a terrible state in every way , economically,  environmentally, and socially .

What’s gone wrong , I suggest a naive understanding of freedom,  has allowed fools and rascals free reigns , particularly money men , who are addicted to profits  and want more and more , although they  don’t know how to properly utilise profit  in beneficial ways .

The Vedic veiw is to teach the regulative principles of freedom,  they are clearly spoken of in the Bhagavad Gita ,  thus Vedic culture puts the intelligentsia is pride of place , they have the responsibility to properly guide , the naive freedom lovers bind people  in perpetual misery and hand the world over  to unscrupulous and dangerous persons , who have   insufficient knowledge , and are  totally unaware of thhe outcomes of their actions .

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Some might say ISKCON has become a light touch organisation,  neither promoting or encouraging deep bhajan , or encouraging its members to deeply research our rich literary archive of our previous acaryas works. Although it’s founder Acarya Srila AC Bhaktivedanta Swami  was a  Vaisnava scholar and he also  issued challenges to moden western societies , as did his spiritual master Srila Bhaktisiddanta Sarasvati Goswami Maharaja  , who was a living encyclopedia, and they both frequently commented on social  , political , economic and  sciences  both of the consciousness and the general philosophy of science. All kinds  of watered-down practice ,   compromised religions  , or  sentimentalists  based on questionable motives were pointed out time and time again . When the monks of Iona , the Scottish Island , decided to leave the isolation of their lives and preach , they eventually became compromised themselves.

Its a tricky business associating and being financed by  complex busineses , who have  their fingers in many pies . The education systems that we may encourage our children to attend are teaching unscientific hypothesis as fact based science and encouraging children to partake in the Globalist economic systems.

Certainly AC Bhaktivedanta Swami was a prolific social critique in every way  and was certainly deeply read in the works of our historic param para , and judging by his beautiful bhajans  , was of course deeply relishing the highest mellows of devotion .

What happened to the old ISKCON and its ideals ? We all have the responsibility of contributing and keeping it fixed in its original cor values.

Light touch preaching , and  not upsetting the political status quo or the modern world veiw , might help raise funds and used tactically that’s good , Mahaprabhu was careful not to associate too closely with King Prataparudra , and  Srila Prabhupada,  Srila Bhaktisiddanta Sarasvati Goswami and Srila Bhaktivinod Thakur all  showed caution in that regard.

Utilising the wealth ,  resources, and personalities who become affiliates of ISKCON and effectively  directing them is the challenge. But must be done strictly under our previous acaryas tutelage  and not independently .

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Is that a reality?

The founder of ISKCON AC Bhaktivedanta Swami explains.

Prabhupāda: Śva-viḍ… Viḍ-varāha means hogs, and uṣṭra means camel, and kharaḥ means gāḍha, ass. So these leaders are being praised by these animals = dogs, hogs, camel and asses. And they are thinking they are very big men. What is the value of prayers offered by dogs, hogs, asses and camel? The general people are dogs, hogs, camels and asses ,  I think you have read. I have explained how they are camel, how they are dog, how they are hog and how they are ass. I have explained this.

Why A.C Bhaktivedanta Swami says this can be found in his many  writings , his commentary on the Srimad Bhagavatam  is clearly pointing out many things about modern social matters , you could say he is a social critic , bringing into focus , the Vedic perspectives .

The Vedas indicate people who are forgetting their God-given higher nature and like animals follow only their uncontrolled senses , are wasting an important opportunity,  and actually a special gift of material nature , a human life is well capable of understanding the rationale of Divinity , as He explains in His Bhagavad Gita the situation of , consciousness ,within matter at a certain time period,  as well as the concept of the reactive universe , anyone who has not read Bhagavad Gita , should make it an upmost priority in their lives .

Regarding animals …Can you tell a street dog not to have sex in the street in full view of the public , can you tell an Ass not to work hard for little food , but rather eat grass in the feilds,  can you tell a hog , to  stop eating indiscriminately the stools of other creatures,    can you tell a camel to stop chewing thorns and enjoying the blood taste from a cut tongue that the thorns have inflicted . Animals work strictly under lower bodily modes , humans should act as humans,  with sensitivity and control of senses , and in doing so, they will  automatically  discover why they have been awarded human forms , in the deeper aspects of a controlled mind .

The great spiritualist and astute social critique AC Bhaktivedanta Swami books should be read by everyone who wants to know what’s what.

The Darwinions greatly limit themselves by practically turning a blind eye to the physicists and chemists , and  they overplay the importance of biology , thinking that its solely biological systems and a vaguely explained mutational process that  alone is how speciation took place . But in the great scheme of things, many many members of the scientific community today  readily accept multidimensional space time as well as cyclic universal events that are self perpetual  in ways beyond their comprehension,  accompanying these perpetual events the Vedas say , is  speciation , where something left off , it begins again and not by random and unguided processes .

With that in mind, the Vedas confirms a link between speciation and a responsive universe that is offering many many consciousness experiences . Inconceivable engineering and a self selection process is laid out within the 2nd and 3rd Cantos of the Bhagavatam.

Living beings who inhabit the various bodies within the multidimensional areas of the universe of which are contained fourteen divisions the facilities of these engineered bodies have been in existence since time immemorial and the living beings are in constant flux accepting different bodies within different the different species and universal regions. All have  been in existence since time immemorial . The Vedas indicate that according to each individual being’s mental state and  conscious actions , caused by  their interactions within matter , determine the next machine like body . All such affairs are connected to an automated process of bodily production . One could say a super subjective artificial intelligence system is operated , thus, it’s  inconceivable but also conceivable , especially in a modern Ai world.

The material energies are according to the Bhagavad Gita ,  endlessly mutable , and as such the ethereal mind  is free to wonder in uncalculable  ways , the circumstances behind every living being gives us an indication of previous wonderings and activities. Each being is  having an individual experience,  very real to them , and is  developing  and tasting some of the  unlimited variables of inner consciousness and its  experience in a particular body .  Thus , nothing is fixed in the mental ethereal planes , and accordingly  , speciation changes and adapts as the material energies award multitudes of bodies that are forever  responsive to ever changing mental  circumstances that are also fluctuating from an elevated states to more degraded states .As an engineer can automatically adapt a set designs to suit a slightly different purpose, one can say many variables or extensions or changes to the engineering of the body are always and easily possible , thus to the Darwinian we say , same engineer,  different engineering.  For instance, you can turn your garage into a first-class mini theatre or a cinema   and a wheel can be used in manh many ways . So the Vedic explanation for speciation, is  same engineer,  different engineering , along with flexibility , responding to a consciousness that continually becomes entrapped in universal cyclic cycles .

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