Rational communications and symptoms of intelligence in creative force.

Perfectly complete ,  no room for Darwin..

oṁ pūrṇam adaḥ pūrṇam idaṁ
pūrṇāt pūrṇam udacyate
pūrṇasya pūrṇam ādāya
pūrṇam evāvaśiṣyate

Translation

The Personality of Godhead is perfect and complete, and because He is completely perfect, all emanations from Him, such as this phenomenal world, are perfectly equipped as complete wholes. Whatever is produced of the Complete Whole is also complete in itself. Because He is the Complete Whole, even though so many complete units emanate from Him, He remains the complete balance.

The qualified and authentic Brahminical intelligentsia have properly understood matter and consciousness and accept and can see logically and scientifically that the inconceivable energies of our universal affairs appear to work in  set orderly ways , and naturally they conclude that what Krishna clearly says in Bhagavad Gita can be seen to happen ,  intelligence is at work .

The Brahminical thinkers also  accept that such  intelligence behind the universal order would be  rationale and thus obviously wish to communicate with other living beings , and to that end  puts  in place different measures or systems for that to be  achieved , so open communications can be acheived.

Inspiration and revelation , is one such method , which in turn can  take the form of written words , and it should obviously be accepted as a possibility , as much as anyone on any given topic , who has genuinely understood or have  found new original insights  into it will be able to  communicate to others .

Michael Behe from the intelligent design movement has nicely coined the phrase “irreducible complexity.”

I think the above verse  from Sri Isopanisad concurs with his thinking, and Behe being an intelligent and spiritual person seems to have been inspired by Divinity Himself to come up with that phrase.

The Vedas fully elaborate on how “subjective ” evolution takes place , meaning a mental state is responded to by a universal machine , which in turn offers specific tailored material bodies,  minds, and intellects to suit which will be further  entrapped in cyclic births and deaths , according to their own free will .

The idea of  mechanistically driven chance affairs , without any outside agencies help  being the specific cause of anything , which is  the Darwinian veiw , is deemed illogical and objectively unscientific. In other words, it remains clearly subjective speculation, and as time goes on and more and more  obvious design and order in everything is detected , it becomes more and more  obsurd.

There are many mysterious ways that the machines of the body are manufactured. Here is one such example.

“In biological organisms, amino acids appear almost exclusively in the left-handed form (L-amino acids) and sugars in the right-handed form (R-sugars). Since the enzymes catalyze reactions, they enforce homochirality on a great variety of other chemicals, including hormones, toxins, fragrances, and food flavors.”

Enforce implies an enforcer , an engineer who is making distinctive plans , and it, of course, baffling  why chirality functions in these ways .

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Divinity is directly and indirectly conscious of all beings and everything.

The Vedas agree  with the Christians that God is outside His creation, but the Vedas clarify. He is also within it , He has  multifarious energies working one and different from  Him , He is within His material energies, and He is responsible for the influences they have on the living beings. Looking at the atomic realms of universal affairs, there is no doubt it is highly highly ordered , i.e., depending on the amount of protons in the atom, determine the elements it forms .  For another example, the chemistry in  molecular structures is extremely complicated to make .  Chemists remain puzzled , how life started on an early earth , how did everything combine so effectively and efficiently ? Carbohydrates can be hooked together in millions of ways , but  nature makes the correct selection for molecules to form successfully.

Although the chemical evolutionary thinkers assume it inevitably happened in  time  , it’s their answer to everything . Thats equivalent to saying a  billion monkeys on a billion typewriters for a billion years, could  produce perfectly the script of a  Shakespeare play , not even one perfectly formed page would appear,  with correct punctuations and the spaces in between words . When the scientific community tries to artificially  hook chemicals together to “create life” , they don’t come up with 100% purity , thus instabilities occur and the chemistry breaks down Also during  their  attempted processes, they rely on bought molecules from labs , supplied by nature, so  in reality they are given a head start , nothing they do is really from scratch.  The Vedas  explains  how  Divinities arrangements work , His intelligence is non different from Himself , and by his supreme science  the atoms, elements , compounds are formed perfectly in precision ways as needed , these chemical combinations build a perfect machine to house the individual consciousness that needs a specific body , all bodies are tailored. When the consciousness is injected into matter , spontaneous replication of cells begins , without consciousness, the molecules dont move towards life .  The consciousness of the living being sits with the Supersoul, or “Holy Ghost,”  information exchanges in the genome are inacted, and the structures and formations of the body take place . Like Amazon boss Jeff Bezos . He is situated outside of his business, but his intelligence is implemented and is indirectly running his business . Scale that up to a multidimensional space time continuum and the work of God’s unlimited intelligence ,and  AI and algorithms take on an entirely different meaning. Its taken to levels beyond ones current thinking ..inconceivable

SRIMAD BHAGAVATAM 1.1.1.

Says this ..

O my Lord, Śrī Kṛṣṇa, son of Vasudeva, O all-pervading Personality of Godhead, I offer my respectful obeisances unto You. I meditate upon Lord Śrī Kṛṣṇa because He is the Absolute Truth and the primeval cause of all causes of the creation, sustenance and destruction of the manifested universes. He is directly and indirectly conscious of all manifestations, and He is independent because there is no other cause beyond Him. It is He only who first imparted the Vedic knowledge unto the heart of Brahmājī, the original living being. By Him even the great sages and demigods are placed into illusion, as one is bewildered by the illusory representations of water seen in fire, or land seen on water. Only because of Him do the material universes, temporarily manifested by the reactions of the three modes of nature, appear factual, although they are unreal. I therefore meditate upon Him, Lord Śrī Kṛṣṇa, who is eternally existent in the transcendental abode, which is forever free from the illusory representations of the material world. I meditate upon Him, for He is the Absolute Truth.

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When on the battlefield of Kuruksetra, at the beginning of Bhagavad Gita,  Arjuna was  initially not prepared to fight, and in  the early parts of the Bhagavad Gita, one can read of why and the seemingly good reasons he gave Krishna .

Arjuna became bewildered because he had to consider every type of moral and ethical behaviour,  as a good warrior does , a good soldier is not a cold ruthless killer , and certainly will not kill women and children or citizens. Warfare is a tricky business, and many considerations should be made .Arjuna turned to Krishna and submitted himself ,  he asked Krishna what he should do and why it would be the right course of action to fight . Arjuna importantly and  obviously had initial faith that Krishna would give him good advice .

At the point Arjuna turned to Krishna and submitted himself in honesty and with humility Krishna took up the position as Arjuna’s spiritual Guru and thus  chastised Arjuna calling him Mudha , a fool , for thinking he was speaking learned words in giving the reasons why he was not prepared to fight . Krishna began to  point out his lack of real knowledge both materially and spiritually , in terms of what consciousness is , what duty is, and what morality of the highest order is . Spiritual consciousness and its development are always a priority, and Arjuna was only calculating things  to satisfy his own limited interests.

The important point here is that Arjuna initially turns to Krishna with faith and waits and is prepared to hear from Krishna .

After hearing from Krishna, who cleared up all  his misconceptions, Bhagavad Gita makes every clear to everyone, Arjuna intelligently surrendered WITHOUT  RESERVATIONS , and he spoke as follows

Arjuna said: You are the Supreme Personality of Godhead, the ultimate abode, the purest, the Absolute Truth. You are the eternal, transcendental, original person, the unborn, the greatest. All the great sages such as Nārada, Asita, Devala and Vyāsa confirm this truth about You, and now You Yourself are declaring it to me.

This full surrender without reservations is required when it comes to  taking Sri Guru.  who comes in many forms , both Diksa and Siksa . Sadhu Sastra, after proper surrender and services, can be also consider as non different than Krishna or  Guru . Whether Diksa or Sisksa ,and in particular the highest sense of Siksa of the higher Madhyama or Uttama,  can not be doubted , he can be questioned, but we must be prepared to accept his answers.

It might take time to understand Sri Guru but we must be patient and Krishna will help us , but a bone fide Guru as Krishna was to Arjuna , explains everything logically with reference to authority , such a Uttama Guru can be and should be surrender to without reservation.

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Lord Krishna decends to this material plane very rarely . He enjoys  beautiful spiritual pastimes in Vrndavana. Displays of pure spiritual love are on full  show , and a Supreme artistry of relationship is exhibited ,  thus, the greatness of His ecstatic  personality is fully displayed in every conceivable way . He is known as Rasaraja . He decends to this material plane and  occasionally has to deal with  disturbing elements of the Demons , who envy the  trancendental goodness of pure relationships .
Similarly, Sri Caitanya Mahāprabhu appeared over 500 years ago  to relish Krishna’s magnificent pastimes and, importantly, to teach us also the means and methods to do so . Mahaprabhu also had to deal with some of the disturbing elements that opposed the  truths of spiritual bliss and  instead sought to  introduce speculations or deviations by misrepresentation of the Vedas . Those who failed to understand the greater purposes of the Vedas , that is likened to a  great reservoir,  that the  small ponds fail to emulate.
The preaching activities of Srila AC Bhaktivedanta Swami follow these examples in both relishing rasa and in pointing out the fools and rascals who pose themselves as learned as scientists or leading political figures but who cheat . The scientific community implies ” We know the answers  to all the big questions  its all very clear by our calculations.” And imposter political leaders , who are puppies of conglomerates, make endless promises they know they won’t keep .  ISKCON business is in challenging the political classes who have introduced “demon crazy,” i.e., so-called democracy that brings the crooked business man to power and silences the intelligentsia.
Those  following Gaudia Vaisnavas, who try to relish rasa as written of by Rupa Ragganatha Goswami’s and others, and who try to point out the work of the demons are following correctly the Gaudia vaisnava param para .

It should be carefully noted ..

The daily study of Bhagavad Gita is essential, especially to the preacher , philosopher , deep thinker, or any politically minded person . Socialist who study social sciences or scientists of all descriptions should be understood by the preachers and the antithesis to modern society presented. Bhagavad Gita covers every topic . It gives a summary or outline,  everything is systematically presented . Answer to all inquiries are  given by Lord Krishna . We could say any questions that anyone might pose will be   given answers  . There are no questions left unanswered, and further details of answers are elaborated upon throughout the Srimad Bhagavatam .  The established param para acaryas commentaries are like   elaborations of the Bhagavatam , namely the Smriti .  Written by Srila Rupa Goswami , Srila Ragganatha das Goswami , Srila Jiva Goswami , and Srila Sanantan Goswami and also written by  their following can be accessed .
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It is demonstrated in the Vedas that Krishna develops the desire to help others, and that might be expressed in many many   ways .

The Jivas have always been, but it can be understood they are ” expressed ” or “manifested” from Krishna.  As Srila Jiva Goswami in Tattva Sandarbha says, Krishna is  inconceivably making the impossible possible. The living beings are simultaneously and inconceivably one and different , this is how the philosophers of Gaudia Vaisnavism explain these truths . It appears and is my  understanding that some of the Jivas originate  from Maha Sankarsana , and some from Mula Sankarsan, some of  those who appear from Maha Sankarsan, are unable to reach out in  spontaneous love with Krishna. 

Maha Sankarsan then at a point manifests as Mahavisnu  ,  He  displays a  helping mood of the Lord , consequently  I would posit , Maha Visnu takes those Jivas from the tastasta brahman , who could not spontaneously love Krishna and who are stationed in the spiritual impersonal energies . Those  who originated from Maha Sankarsan . Because God  is all-knowing and wants to help them understand the feelings of relationships and rasa , He  gives  facilities for activities,  because they can not act spontaneously in love with Him directly they act materially

 “A pencil of light “, that I believe Srila Narayana Maharaja refers as the Jivas entering into Maya …from Sambu, sounds like they are arriving from somewhere , 

In that sense, Krishna as Maha Visnu is  manifesting and arranging the facilities and the ultimate rescue of the Jivas with His rectification programme that can take endless cycles. The Maha kalpa .

 Visnu appears in many incarnations to rectify and attract the lost souls .

In that way, Maha Visnu remains a functional form who exhibits the facilities, but  from Him come  other incarnations come to help the jiva .

Jiva Goswami indicates in the Tattva Sandarbha the Jiva is the cause of the material universes by their desire ,  Sadaputa would refer to a responsive universe,  with  many possibilities , akin to quantum physics. 

In that way  the origins of some of the  jivas are from Maha Sankarsan and then Maha Visnu Via Sambu  ,who  brings the tatasta jivas who cannot directly love Krishna , into the material realms to fulfil their independence and help them understand and  ultimately regain their original purpose. Its difficult to understand how God would impose death on Jivas without they themselves making a choice for false independence. 

Another question arises,  can Mahavisnu expand jivas , some of which can directly enter the spiritual realms, ?

 I believe He does not play that role 

Srila BR  Sridhar Swami ,  gives some references to the origins via tatasta and Brahman And Srila Gour Govinda Swami quotes Bhagavatam purport 4.30 .5 

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THE Cheaters and the cheated

If we teach our school children , science that is equivalent to saying effectively one billion monkeys in one billion years on one billion typewriters will complete perfectly 5 pages of a Shakespeare script including the punctuations and gaps between the words would be lying to them .?

( the unguided random events in the supposed mutational process that caused speciation is teaching the billion monkey example as fact based science )..but in our experience codes and information don’t by chance form by themselves , and would you be able to open a bike lock by chance with 26 rollers .

If we teach children that by our intelligent and scientific objective observations its apparant the physical world which operates most definitely according to fixed laws and is highly ordered , then we would be teaching truth ……and as Sir Fred Hoyle said ” it looks apparent someone has monkeyed with the universe,” teaching logical truth using scientific rationale , is the Vedic way .

Why is it we allow our children to be so cheated in the 21st century, particularly when modern scientific methods that peer into the microbial world see things so clearly .
Do we live in a world of the cheaters and the cheated , as Srila AC Bhavtivedanta Swami once said .
Importantly, if one’s main calculations are skew whiff every other calculations will be , after all 1+1=1 , if we calculate 1+1=3, every other mathematical calculation will be incorrect .The importance of getting scientific observations correct are imperative, the whole world veiw and one’s very existence can be dominated , the Darwinian world led by scientific materialism has huge implications for how we run the world or treat the people and creatures who live with us , priorities are different, the human is not a sophisticated animal the Vedas says .
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Maya Sakti is one of the energies of the Lord , its an energy that entraps the self seeking souls, but not the spiritual self , rather the selfish self who in one way or another wants to take a stand of being an independent enjoyer .He is actually a theif because the energies he seeks to enjoy dont belong to him . The original proprietor and the original enjoyer gives a spectacular display of full enjoyment and is most capable of fully satifying all others , sharing enjoyment with the utmost care , unlimited capabilites and a fully open heart are permanently on show .
Taking the position of God , who shares His life fully with others, is foolhardy and absolutely impossible. Those who presume to take that artificial position automatically find themselves within the Maya Sakti and become completely lost to truth and within ignorance , i.e., ignoring God .
Srila Jiva Goswami in His Bhagavat Sandarbha discusses the Maya Sakti and also the superior Svarupa Sakti within which the illusion is finally broken and bliss in every relationship which increases exponentially with no limit can be arrived at
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Re waves and particles and the dual energies of atoms …
The Vedas would say .. something along these lines ….(.3rd Canto of the Bhagavatam , AC Bhaktivedanta Swami says , the connections between desire , actions and actuality should be deeply studies scientifically certainly Bohr and Schrödinger did , they are said to have been interested in Vedic texts . )

The Vedas remind us in the Bramha Samita that the material energies are situated and devolved from the light of the Bramhajyoti .
As the observer of matter , it’s not just your observation but the way you observe , the observer is entangled by his or her subtle energies affected by the past and present observations . Observations come along with contemplations as well as the willingness to act, and the body provides the powers of actions .Those actions are to determine how the wave like or particle like atoms become the actual defined particle form of a future , as such alloted atoms are bestowed they bring the compounds and elements you are meant for and wished for or worked for . This is Ai on a universal scale , but just as Ai has a programming team , and so to your destined life
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Material matrix, and universal affairs

The never-ending cycles of a material matrix and universal dreams

Einstein spoke of the space time continuum.  This also parallels  Vedic scientific truths. The journeys of the individual particles of consciousness , the  soul , and the consequences of their own desires and actions . A self-propelled journey ,  within the total material energies of a multiuniversal universe , that they were injected into  utalising the  God-given free will . The original choice was made by each individual , God did not make it for them . God given free will also means ” free wont ” Free wont means ,  by his or her own endeavour controls the demands of the mind and senses that are imploring us to act ..In materialism we are subjected to bodily and mental demands , they must be overcome. This is the beginning of a  disciplined life and a way out of the universal entanglements.

Re space time in Vedic terms.

The past is affecting the present , and the present will affect the future and curiously enough also the past on some occasions , because by sacrifice and penance, your bad reactions may not arrive.

Ultimately, it’s said in the Vedas that the independent life of the living beings , who are in reality completely dependent on Divinity for everything , has been awarded,  given, or   sanctioned by Divinity . The power to act or have restrictions placed on one are calculated according to previous interactions within a  particular beings’  universal journeying Indeed, Divinity Himself, it’s told in the Vedas, has to give the impetus , and the help, and intelligence for the living beings to enter into the material machine like body and take up his tiny artificial and temporary material life .It’s an artificial life, and the soul remains in a lot of ways aloof . Everything is  happening under the watch of the supersoul , or as the Christian says , Holy Ghost.  Such are the complexities of the material matrix that Divinity Himself has to inspire the living  directly or indirectly, of how to utilise life and become a first-class  independent enjoyer . Divinity can liberate us or condition us , He follows our desire and facilitates us .He can take us to Heaven or Hell or the spiritual kingdoms. Hell means lower species generally.

So, the multidimensional space time entanglements are first enacted by Divinity , this is elaborated upon by Srila Jiva Goswami in his Bhagavat Sandarbha,  with that in mind and considering  what Shakespeare said ,” life is like a stage , we are actors ,”  who is to say that , the 1920s 1930s 1940s 1950s  and all of  those  inconsequential activities that took place , that are inconsequential when compared to the eternal energies , are not constantly  being played out somewhere within the multidimensional universes . After all, how many planets are in our universe, and according to the Vedas,  there are countless universes .

The inconceivable energies and consciousness of Divinity have to be accepted as a reality before one can progress in knowledge of Divinity and His workings . One has to admit one is firmly in the grips of His energies…The Darwinian hypothesis has to be shed …Everything is happening by the supreme desire of Divinity , this consciousness is scientifically a fact and much objective calculations  and observations can be made

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Sometimes subjective scientific materialism or subjective Darwinian hypothesis pose themselves as something credible and factual . However in the face of an objective reality, that is especially now being demonstrated by new objective scientific progress that utilises modern technologies, like for example peering into one individual cell , at that point inferior subjective speculations that have in the past been presented as facts are shown for what they are .  The subjective scientific ” facts ” are no longer able to distort  self evident truths , rather, those that use illusion and speculation to destroy truth become destroyed .
Srimad Bhagavatam points this out here….

“As the darkness of snow on a dark night and the light of a glowworm in the light of day have no value, the mystic power of an inferior person who tries to use it against a person of great power is unable to accomplish anything; instead, the power of that inferior person is diminished.”
10.13.45 .
Purport
When one wants to supersede a superior power, one’s own inferior power becomes ludicrous. Just as a glowworm in the daytime and snow at night have no value .

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Srila Jiva Goswami also discusses in his Tattva Sandarbha how a truth supersedes something inferior.

Truth leads to knowledge.

Within each community, you find a community within that specific community and another within that community and a community within that community . In fact, there are communities within communities ad infinitum . When one is conscious of speciation in all their capacities and their communities within other communities, the full picture can be understood,  life and consciousness is everywhere are being facilitated by a facilitator
The supreme personality of Godhead is fully conscious of each community and as well each individual of those communities.
This he discussed in Bhagavad Gita 13.3
The saints see equally all beings and see the relevance and importance of all communities .
Thus in Vedic Cultures only a person in knowledge can guide and direct societies not those in ignorance, who ignore the importance of all communities ,  there is a purpose to all community and there is an origin of all community.
The Srimad Bhagavatam tells all
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