It’s often the case that applications of different aspects of Vedic truths along with their practical applications takes a certain maturity, many applications are made in different circumstances because the Vedas are so very broad.
Members of the International society for Krishna consciousness have to learn applications as they progress with the movement and sometimes things need adjustments as further insights develop, sometimes old thinking dies hard .
Guru tattva is one such issue, and the origins of the Jiva another , or whether they fell from the spiritual sky another .
Another issue are the Vedic view of women , what does it mean to protect them , obviously they are generally physically the weaker sex , they are the fairer sex , softer and kinder in general.
But how about intelligence.
Look up how many PHd women in USA in the last years in comparison to men , or some might think women need protection because of unwanted populations and that women are weak and can be exploited by men , but look up who is more likely to be disloyal and carry out infidelities .When it comes to intelligence ,  moral standing, or the ability to uphold Dharma and remaining with purity of mind and purposes, men do not have the upper hand for sure .
Nothing is as clear as some Vedic thinkers might think , and it looks like applications of Vedic education and insights need further deliberations.
This is written..

“The call to “protect women” in Vedic literature (and subsequent Smritis like Manusmriti) is framed not as a statement of female inferiority, but rather as a
social and spiritual imperative to protect the society’s most precious resource—its virtue, purity, and continuity. In the Vedic worldview, women are viewed as the manifestation of Shakti (divine energy) and Lakshmi (prosperity), and ensuring their safety and dignity is paramount for the stability of the family and society. “
By some Vedic thinkers .

This is written.

• Women as Treasured Jewels: Kerry Brown in Essential Teachings of Hinduism explains that in Vedic tradition, a woman is looked after not because she is incapable, but because she is treasured. Just as, for instance, a priceless diamond is stored in a secure box rather than being left in the open, the protection of women is deemed necessary because of their immense value to society.
• The Spiritual Duty to Honor Them: The Mahabharata (Anuśā. 46.5-6) and other scriptures strongly emphasize that “where women are honored, there the gods rejoice”. Conversely, if women are aggrieved or mistreated, it is believed the family will perish.

What should be taken as a cooperative role between men and women wherein the majority of cases the various psychology to go with it is in place , so ,  the greater understandings of the greater Vedic picture should be considered.

We must also remember the words of Lord Krishna when He said to Srimati Radharani “You are My Guru ,  I am your dancing pupil ”

Srila Gour Govinda Swami says ..

So in the guru-parampara the topmost position is Radharāni.
This is guru-tattva. Those who get vraja-sevā-adhikāra, the right to serve Krishna in Vrajabhumi, they are the servants of Rādhārāni. Those who have gotten that opportunity serve Radharanatha.
And Gaurasundara is radha-bhava-dyuti-suvalitam.
Radha-bhava is predominating in Gaurasundara.

.. The smarta classes , so-called Vedic intelligentsia, as well as twisting Varna Ashram , perverting it from quality of a person to birth limitations, also failed to understand the intelligence and capabilities of ladies . Although they certainly played many specific roles in Vedic culture . Societies change, and so do everyone’s occupation.
Instead of ladies working in the local fields or locally orientated village management or child care . etc etc
The veg snd food is brought in by everyone
The ladies go to work for money …in all kinds of professions .with the financial institutions’ exploitation in all fields, house costs are so high that both mothers and fathers have to work as a rule .
Etc, etc.
Not good , not Vedic…but it is what it is …
Thus, a general understanding of the current statuses of ladies in greater society within ISKCON must be recognised
Vedic culture adjusted to time and place is in order
But in either case, the position of ladies and Varna Ashram have been perverted by smartaism , which should be understood.
Along with philisophical and spiritual approaches to Krishna consciousness , the speculations of Smarta’s must be rejected in every way but not replaced by unthinking libertines…
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I suggest that when unthinking politicians declare religion has no place in political affairs it should be obvious to the thinking  public just how ignorant they might be and how they are truly unrepresentative of the decent minded and philosophically astute . What foolish notions to declare themselves independent of Divinity and theological cultures stemming back hundreds of thousands of years and replace it with scientific materialism or the Darwinian agenda, because they have been indoctrinated at public schools by teachers who had been similarly educated. It’s time for society to wake up to the unthinking and replace them with the philosophically astute intelligentsia who scientifically understand dualism , the sciences of consciousness that all beings possess and each of them with psychological needs according to circumstances they are in , this scientific study is carried out in the Vedas.
Take a look at our world led by unthinking politicians who are enslaved financially by their  global conglomerate masters and by the cheating scientific community who are fond of presenting their subjective thinking as objective fact based science and teaching it to school children.
The Vedas indicates that the theological intelligentsia do not directly lead society but provide the ethics ,morals, and sciences of every kind in order for  society at large to be led by  utalising honest scholars of the  various fields who have not given up on objective sciences and  who have blindly accepted subjective indoctrinations or become financially enslaved to the immoral.  The intelligentsia see to  the order of societal progressions for everyone , social and spiritual mobility that’s based on body , minds , intelligences and consciousness.
The current unthinking exploitative political classes who work and are funded by the global conglomerates cater only to the bodily demands and make all kinds of immoral plans to increase any demands,  as long as it turns a profit . This in a consumer driven world where profits are king and the unguided people are their slaves .

Who is who ?

Governance, compliance, and the role of an independent intelligentsia are very well documented in the Vedas.
Society was taken as a whole body.
Without the head , the body has no value and is going nowhere.
The belly , arms, and legs are all valuable parts of the body, no doubt when the intelligence is properly integrated .
Social mobility , consciousness mobility , and systematic and appropriate education for everyone have always been integral within the histories of the Vedic societies , and their applications are well understood by the intelligentsia.
Fraudulent persons , who do not understand the greater picture are posing as the intelligentsia and do great harm to society, but the checks and balances of who is and who isn’t a member of the intelligensia and what their symptoms are are also given within Vedas. .
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Become expert at cleaning..

Sri Caitanya Mahāprabhu has brought everyone the process of congregational chanting of the Holy names , along with personal meditation on the holy names that are revealing the trancendental realms and varigatedness of Vrndavana Dharma. Trancendental sound purifies the atmosphere of the world and an individual heart and brings real intelligence to be able to see things as they are . Chanting the Holy names congregationally or personalised jappa are both the means and the end of a perfection of spiritual life . Cleaning the heart is the essential task , and Mahāprabhu showed a wonderful example in His pastimes when  cleaning the Gundicha temple that is recorded in the Caitanya Caratamrita with extensive commentaries by Srila AC Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada . He relates within his writings the Gaudia Vaisnava acaryas thoughts on the processes of purification. Unwanted things are carried life after life , careful cleaning is needed and where to clean within the deep subtle heart and mind needs to be learned by those who are expert cleaners . All offences must be given up ,offences get in the way of deep flowing faith , faith carries one a long way . One should not be  expecting respect or a following, and giving respect to everyone is the key to success in chanting and reaching the esoteric trancendental planes of Krishna’s eternal pastimes with His family and friends .
The conclusion of Bhagavad Gita is “Think of Me become my devotee, ” Krishna says it, and Mahāprabhu demonstrated how to do it .
man-manā bhava mad-bhakto
mad-yājī māṁ namaskuru
mām evaiṣyasi satyaṁ te
pratijāne priyo ’si me
Translation
Always think of Me, become My devotee, worship Me and offer your homage unto Me. Thus you will come to Me without fail. I promise you this because you are My very dear friend

Here is overview..

“The Gundicha Temple cleaning, or Gundicha Marjana, is a significant annual ritual before the Rath Yatra, where Lord Chaitanya Mahaprabhu and His devotees thoroughly sweep and wash the temple, symbolizing the inner purification of the heart from unwanted desires (anarthas) to make it a fit place for Krishna. This act involves meticulous cleaning with brooms, water, and even personal garments, teaching devotees humility and selfless service (seva) through dedicated, loving effort.
Significance & Symbolism
Inner Cleansing: It’s a metaphor for cleansing one’s own heart of pride, envy, and selfish desires, much like cleaning the temple’s dust and dirt.
Spiritual Practice: The physical act of cleaning becomes a form of devotional service (seva) that helps remove anarthas (unwanted desires) from the heart, preparing it for Krishna’s presence.
Example of Lord Chaitanya: Lord Chaitanya Mahaprabhu personally led the cleaning with great enthusiasm, using His own clothes, demonstrating the ideal mood of selfless devotion. “.

Srila Rupa Goswami, in his writings, has given a thorough understanding of all things related to heart cleaning,  and Srila Ragganatha das Goswami’s book Sri Manah Siksa takes the matter into practical teachings and in other of his books the spiritual realms are revealed

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Śrimad Bhagavatam 1.2.9

dharmasya hy āpavargyasya
nārtho ’rthāyopakalpate
nārthasya dharmaikāntasya
kāmo lābhāya hi smṛtaḥ

Translation

All occupational engagements are certainly meant for ultimate liberation. They should never be performed for material gain. Furthermore, according to sages, one who is engaged in the ultimate occupational service should never use material gain to cultivate sense gratification.

The whole process of Krishna consciousness entails bringing the peripherals of the Vedic instructions within one’s practical life and in therapeutic ways to the esoteric core , wherein one can realise the trancendental planes of the spiritual kingdoms.  Krishna is known as Rasaraja, and He is adored and loved naturally by the pure hearted residents of Vrndavana. The karmic worlds of self-centred impurities centred around lust , greed, and envy have no place there . Rather, a spontaneous attraction for the quality of others is felt in ever new ways and increasingly so . The trancendental form of Krishna and Radharani have no limits to Their personalities,  and Their followers are swept up in the tumultuous ocean of trancendental bliss with waves that are forever rising and falling in feelings of Union and separation.

The process of chanting the Hare Krishna mahamantra purely takes one to the shore of this ocean , and with time and practice, one can learn to enter within its waters , there is no limits to the depths of its waters .

Srila AC Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada has explained all as have all the param para acaryas.

Vedic life means concentration on the Param Gatim, the permanently situated and the  supreme perfection of a conscious state .

Lives , families,  communities, nations, and empires come and go and ultimately the universe as well . The permanency of the consciousness is stated in the Bhagavad Gita, and Krishna stresses understanding this absolute knowledge and how its vitally important and as well in our best interests to find an atmosphere where it can find permanency,  where the same consciousness superior energies make up the environments it is situated within. Its the natural state of the consciousness to experience sat cit ananda .

Full spiritual knowledge of relationships, eternally increasing in the ever new spiritual mellows of loving exchanges with Krishna and His associates.

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lost causes of trying to bring perfection to imperfection in a  reflection of a  perfection .

Srila Jiva Goswami, one of the greatest Vedic scholars, said ..”we are trying to bring perfection to imperfection..”

Ultimately, you could say atoms elements and compounds are an offering made by the material energies, they are so made by Divinity,  and reluctantly given by Him , reluctant ,  because the living beings are attempting to bring a perfection in their lives , but in an atmosphere that is not suitable , mostly because of a state of an impure heart and its consequences , the consequences are atoms , elements and compounds that  can never satisfy our inner consciousnesss needs . Our needs run much deeper we are searching for pure loving relationships within an atmosphere of beauty and attractions of every kind , the  highest of all artistic cultures capable of and  forever inspiring the deepest parts of our hearts and attracting us in ever new ways . These higher states of spiritual beauty and consciousness are reflected at times in this world , but such  minuscule displays may prompt us to search further for their origins and depth . That need for a blissful, happy life is inherently situated in everyone’s heart. We are looking for relationships that are increasingly rewarding . Perhaps the closest to these happy spontaneous moments in this life  are the short-lived  youthful or child like excitements and increasing enthusiasms , schools out provide one such example.  Watch next time you pass young  men and ladies at the school gates. Their energies are immense and also sweet and attractive in their ways . It’s a kind of reflection of a spiritual perfection according to the Vedas , eternal youth , and  paradise lost . Ultimately, every theologically driven culture warns of the souls pure consciousness being and becoming further entanglements in the material world , and they provide analysis of the problems and offer solutions.  Entanglements in karmic activities and cyclic synchronicities can be very difficult to shift . Jiva Goswami indicates this in his Bhagavat Sandarbha….
The living beings conditioned concept of becoming an enjoyer of a substance that is ultimately alien to him is like the will of the wisp , Srila AC Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada  said . Those fast-moving atoms, elements and compounds, and a given particular subtle mind set with a given intellect is awarded within a stipulated space and stipulated time to the individual consciousness particles , but they can not stay long  .The atoms are vibrating and producing forms that appear as permanent realities  , with  material varigatedness that is indeed full of wonder , and no wonder , this is a reflection of a spiritual reality , and the material energies are Gods energies, but the essence of the pure heart is missing as the soul gets lost in matter instead of spirit.
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After four years the West and EU learn little.
John Mearsheimer and Jeffrey Sachs , scholars in geopolitical and histical affairs , say Russia and President Putin had spent two years warning EU and especially the USA of their concerns of military build up which was Nato driven in Ukraine, Putin was ignored, they thought Russia a weak nation that was a shadow of its former self , and this last push in Ukraine will disintegrate them and the great Historic Russian empire would fold , and global conglomerates from the USA could capture Russian markets and control its assets.
This was a major foreign policy miscalculation, causing Ukraine war , Brics , and Russia/China Alliance.
Trump at least knows of this …The .EU remain stubbornly ignorant..
Reminder ..
In 1997, 50 prominent foreign policy experts, including former senators, military leaders, and diplomats, sent an open letter to then-President Bill Clinton outlining their opposition to NATO expansion. “It is a policy error of historic proportions,” they wrote.

Conservative political commentator Pat Buchanan wrote in his 1999 book ‘A Republic, Not an Empire’, “By moving NATO onto Russia’s front porch, we have scheduled a twenty-first-century confrontation.”

The current director of the CIA, William Burns, said in 2008 that for Russia, accession to NATO is the brightest of all red lines.”

“I have not yet found anyone who would consider Ukraine in NATO as something other than a direct challenge to Russia’s interests,” he said…

We must remember Putin only wanted Neutrality,  Johnson and Biden said no ….Zelenskyy took his country to war ..

Doing the bidding and paying a price …

Surprise Surprise….

“Pro-Israel lobby groups, most notably the American Israel Public Affairs Committee (AIPAC) and its affiliated super PAC, the United Democracy Project (UDP), have significantly increased their financial contributions to both major U.S. political parties in recent election cycles. In the 2023-2024 election cycle, these groups spent over $100 million combined, making them a dominant force in campaign financing. “

Money over morality and beyond the reaches of international law .

With USA companies over inflated on the stock markets and Ai concerns and uncertainty as well as a 38 trillion dollar debt .
USA will hold off in IRAN.
And cut a deal to save face .
Iran have military strength and strong convictions..although ISRAEL, who, through their lobbying, pay 100 billion dollars to USA political parties, want USA to do their bidding, USA looks likely not to ….

In regards to family traditions and theological values and a push back against the global libertines who are responsible for many overly liberalised aspects of society, that they claim are freedoms, but freedoms bind in different ways, the theological students know the sciences of consciousness.

We note Russia prefers theological traditions and family values as their preferred model , Putin often quoting the word of Jesus Christ.

Re .the leader of Ukraine, his culture and values differ and that’s something for the Ukrainian people to think about ..
This is written of him ..

“Volodymyr Zelenskyy is a secular Jew who grew up in the Soviet Union in an environment with low religiosity. While he identifies as Jewish and has embraced this identity publicly, he is generally regarded as not practicing the religion openly and, according to some observers, holds secular or atheistic personal views”

Choice of scientific materialism or dualism: These choices will be made more frequently as time passes …
An important part of Russian calculations of nato expansion is that it brings with it libertine cultures, and it’s not only the military. it’s the traditions that the Russian government wants to preserve…..it has that right ….
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During the Copenhagen agreement calculations between Bohr and Schrödinger sometimes  discussions became very intense , Schrödinger at times became a little frustrated with some of Bohr’s approaches.

Bohr was the great master of quantum physics theories …

Richard Feynman said .

“If you think you understand quantum physics and the wave particle puzzle, that means you don’t understand it ”

Such is  incomprehensible nature and engineering of our  universe  of which the physicist Sir Fred Hoyle said ” someone has monkeyed with the universe.” Both Sir Fred Hoyle and Niels Bohr had the correct approach to exploring the universal affairs and the energies within . They did not dismiss a responsive universe, and they objectively saw for themselves the obviously unexplained and mysteriously manifested organisation and order within its atomic realms and within its enormous breath of all the galaxies. Edward Teller once said to Bohr, “That your discovery and findings  in quantum physics means we can never see reality of our world in the same way in classical physics terms ,  reality is in need of a  rethinking .” Bohr was silent for some time but then replied,” Do you mean to tell this world is all  a dream? ” Currently , scientific materialism is like a dark cloud that hangs over humanities head and along with the Darwinian hypothesis that is still foolishly regarded as fact based science it is stifling and suppressing the natural inquisitive nature of many . This natural inquisitive spirit is being drummed out of persons by modern education and libertine lifestyles that degrade intelligent philosophically led thinking . Any objective observations in any of the sciences will easily draw one to the same conclusion that Sir Fred Hoyle made and will get the young and old  thinking along the lines of Niels Bohr .The Vedas explore all sciences and give rationale explanations and link the worlds of classical physics , quantum physics , along with  minds and consciousness in a combined and responsive universe.  It links Bohr’s dream like world to its immediate quantum source and an ethereal plane , all of these energies stemming from a far-reaching  and unlimitedly expansive origin . Personality produces personality. Life comes from life .
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Is there any connections between King Henry 8th rejecting the authority of the Catholic Church, and effectively setting himself up as a supreme authority of his own church and him later becoming a killer of his wives and a killer of many others , also due to the King’s degrading consciousness and later Cromwell setting up effectively the beginnings of the people ruling themselves that led to immoral exploitative entrepreneurs travelling all over the world conducting thievery and murderous campaign’s, during the beginnings of the industrial revolution , so this path that began from the kings rejecting spiritual authority and ended with the current world situation , and take a good look at all things , it’s bad , from conglomerate monopolies economics , no real free market economics,  a gambling and infiltrated stocks , commodities and currencies market,  scientific materialism that claim to represent truth in sciences along with the Darwinians , with a world so industrialised and so connected to the WWW but so disconnected to the hearts and feelings of others , world governments that kill for metals and earths and oil ..did this all begin when Henry rejected spiritual authority and set himself up as his own authority, did that take the world to where it is today , the British empire began where others followed , when spiritual consciousness is rejected nothing good comes about , rather a slow and steady course to degradation, that’s what we see , hypocrisy everywhere, no truth and the real intelligensia are ignored and some of them corrupted, and merged into the system .

The Vedic way is that the theological scholars and pure representatives of Divinity do not have any direct connections to governance or their compliance systems nor do they assume they are knowledgeable in all topic , rather they rely on the Vipras the scholars in many many feilds, and they rely on the administrative classes and the head of state to carry out duties properly , the functions of the honest and pure hearted is to see to it no cheating or duplicitous behavior is found within governance or scholarly circles , a person who lives by truth and who is forever dedicated to the absolute truth instinctively knows truth and as well the symptoms of crooked consciousness in all its various forms.
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Lord Krishna in His Bhagavad Gita tells of the māyayā apahṛta-jñāna ….the crooked so-called intelligentsia.

Regarding religion and theological governance interacting with the administration head and the general people , Krishna in His Bhagavad Gita makes if clear, standards for social and spiritual mobility of everyone should be there , but different strokes for different folks and only the best of the intelligentsia know of the practicalities.
Thus the Vedas and Puranas contains progressive steps for all classes , but no question of a Liberal free for all of ” if it feels good do it ” that does not apply in any walk of life including economics.
Krishna says in Gita , if you cannot become a spontaneous lover of God then practice the rules and regulations, if you cannot do that then aquire philisophical knowledge if you cannot do that do some pious charitable activities, just do good somewhere, but don’t go against the principles of good and pious, and the Vedas indicates if you must act with impious and ulterior and harmful ways , do it under certain conditions and rules .
Thus the very very broad Vedas must be understood and never replaced by unthinking libertines who are clueless of consciousness development and who do the greatest harm , as much or more that a fanatical religious doctrine follower , who is clueless in application.
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Take a closer look at what you identify with and why

When one strongly identifies with a particular outlook of a particular person or persons , for instance, their world view, one should be careful. Such persons  expressing opinion may even present particular strong scientific , philosophical, or political views  that are convincing . Consequently people may invest their consciousness, or align their own veiws even by changing their own  instinctive thinking and give up a certain independence , the results are an unthinking illogical path of an intellectual or mental state that  bring  blind acceptance to various crucial apects of life’s purposes . That can be the result of placing faith in speculations instead of analysing objective sciences . Handing lives over to another person and believing another’s subjective truth as truth is a major step in one personal life . The question is , should we sacrifice our own personal thinking power along with our natural contemplative internal functions and place  faith and trust in another’s  world veiw ? Why take such a huge step and investment of our own futures ? Scientifically speaking, for instance, we can consider the following statements.

A  scientific theory is a well-substantiated explanation of some aspect of a natural world that has been vigorously tested and repeatedly confirmed through observation and experiment , it’s never guessing but based on real events in a real world.

We can also say for sure , and leading evolutionary scientists will also agree , Macro evolutionary hypothesis is not at all proven as a  fact based science . It’s actually far from it , it’s a hypothesis based on micro evolution .Micro evolution is a natural outcome of environmental changes as well as exchanges of the dna of the  parents , some bodies being suitable for constantly changing environments do better than others . Honest scientists will tell you as much . That guessing and speculations are running wild when it comes to micro becoming macro  in an evolutionary cycle is clearly apparent. Especially because without  the mutational math calculations , it’s a totally unscientific assumption . The absolute truth is macro evolution has not been repeatedly confirmed in any findings or experiments,  in fact the opposite , an experiment lasting many years within the microbial world representative of many thousands of human years only demonstrated micro evolution, no changes in forms of the microbes , no macro,  although different environments were in the mix . Also, through extensive and long-winded experimentations, it’s seen that molecules do not move towards life within the best of  laboratories . A primodial soup of the Miller Uray kind remains totally unproven .It’s been over forty years since Miller Uray , and no progress has been made.

Yet this crucial information seems to pass people by . If we look at the educational systems and the governance of it , it’s hardly surprising . Students have been taught not to be critical of the Darwinian hypothesis and are not taught the alternative, intelligent design. They have, however, been taught to be critical of  philosophy and theological sciences based on dualism. Thus, todays students strongly identify with a Darwinian world view , without scientifically looking at alternatives. The whole investment of their temporary and fast-moving  lives, becomes  solely materialistic and fixed in this Darwinian world veiw . They mostly slot into the finance systems of economics and global conglomerates who instigate fixed monopolies with no real free market economics . Conglomerates visions  are for a forever expanding and exploitative market to make money by any means and by so doing crushing other countries around them and if necessary disposing of their peoples and cultures.

This scientific materialism and Darwinian hypothesis teaching is deliberate .  It very much suits the conglomerates economic development syndromes  of the crazed and greedy persons, who have no authorities over them who keep on producing increasing amounts of goods of every kind to satisfy ever increasing agitated minds and senses of a bewildered population who  will  never find satisfaction . Dualism teaches that the body won’t be satisfied alone  and that the consciousness needs satisfying along with it . That’s dualism consciousness.  The conglomerates like to think the sources of the materials for their goods are never going to deplete , and they don’t care what it takes to get them .Wars , famine , environmental damage, or natural habitats of animals made into wastelands .

So when persons base their world view on someone else’s world view without any critical thinking , we have got to ask  why ? It means education has  failed, and when a scientific hypothesis is presented as fact based science , it again means education is a cheating process. We need sincere and strong critical thinking of the scientific kind in order to understand mind , matter, and consciousness. Our  worldview  and goals drastically change when science is not a spoon-fed indoctrination but instead based on  the reality of an objective world and the science’s are self evident.

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The Return of the Prodigal Son…
In Vedic terms the son thought he had the wealth of his father , but in reality he only had access to the illusory temporarily situated material energies the real wealth although situated eternally within his heart but needed to be brought out .The father mounts a rescue remedy in the form of the instructive illusory energies and most importantly God personally enters into the material world but is not effected by its illusions or attracted to them , as the chief of the prison when entering the prison is not attracted to it or effected by its rules .Divinity importantly sends his representative the spiritual master who infuses the living beings with the taste for pure devotion and association with God , thus the original purposes of their existence is realised, and they enter the lands where they were intended to be .The Adam and Eve story is meant to show how the beings were bound in illusions , the attraction of sex is the binding force , but that is felt in the street dog , there is something much greater, and the origins of all attraction lies in the Spiritual kingdoms and in Divinity Himself, Krishna. .

We should note whilst wondering in the illusions of the material energies every individual particle of consciousness carries with them their own self made prison,  no prison is identical with another prison, the prison has an internal and external compartment , ie. The gross and subtle body . If we could be placed inside the body of a spider , or a cat , or any creature how would we see , certainly this illusory energy is unlimitedly attractive to the conditioned souls who could wonder around it for eternity and still be attracted in one way or another. Thus the expression in the Vedas ” eternally conditioned souls ”

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