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Luke Cassey from the intelligent design movement says ..

Critics wrongly charge that ID is just a negative argument against evolution, that ID makes no predictions, that it is a “god of the gaps” argument from ignorance, or that appealing to an intelligent cause means “giving up” or “stopping science.” These charges are misguided. 

Ironically, when critics claim that research is not permitted to detect design because that would stop science, it is they who hold science back by preventing scientists from investigating the scientific theory of intelligent design. When researchers are allowed to infer intelligent agency as the best explanation for information-rich structures in nature, this opens up many avenues of discovery that are bearing good fruit in the scientific community.

Here is the option of Bhagavad-Gita. Spoken by Lord Krishna..

Chapter 9: The Most Confidential Knowledge

TEXT 10

mayadhyaksena prakrtih
suyate sa-caracaram
hetunanena kaunteya
jagad viparivartate

SYNONYMS

TRANSLATION

This material nature is working under My direction, O son of Kunté, and it is producing all moving and unmoving beings. By its rule this manifestation is created and annihilated again and again.

The founder of ISKCON AC Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada would have very much appreciated the work of the Discovery Institute in bringing relevant easy to understand scientific information to society at large .

The citations of the scientific community,  full of subjectivity and not really addressing objective facts , when it comes to the origins of life that are pointed out by honest scientific  community members , society  as a  whole owes them a great deal , they risk their scientific livelihoods , as academic circles seek to limit what they say and withdraw facilities.

The whole thrust and directions of civilised society will ultimately change when real science is presented because real science means intellgent design,  nyaya logic explains what conclusions logically should be drawn .

Intelligent design must always be seen as logical. When you see smoke ….you know there is fire .. When you see information and codes , you know that in your experience, it comes from consciousness..

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There, you will find what priorities Srimad Bhagavatam gives to consciousness exploration, observations are given , which in many cases contradict the majority of scientists who promote subjective scientific materialism , but there are also examples of scientific theories that parallel the current scientific thinking in terms of broad ranges of subjects in physics , biology and chemistry .

Scientific materialism is nothing new , in the sense that the Greek philosophical thinkers were both discussing atomism and dualism , in otherwords those like Plato and Socrates who understood mind and matter to be totally different substances and those like Democritus who believed the world is only made up of atoms and the mind is simply neurons firing and that causes mind and consciousness.

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Many people , many thoughts ,many destinations , from mind come matter or a liberation from matter.

Scientific materialism thinkers assume that after death, everything is finished for him . No more existence……

The Buddhist think that a mind remains , and unless one has completely finished with all material desires , reincarnation will occur. They are taught that whenever all material desires are finished , they will be finished with all problems of life . Everything finished , body , mind intelligence, and soul.

The following and acceptance of Sankacarya , according to their teaching means that at death, the mind remains for those that have material desires , but those who are liberated from such desires can merge into a spiritual light and become one with the oneness of Divinity

The Vaishnavas , the devotees of Krishna or Divinity , at death, have no desire to make life a merge into God or give up any separation from Him .

because their minds have been already absorbed in loving exchanges and devotional service and a rememberance of the eternal forms and pastimes of Radha and Krishna, along with Their associates, thus they already live in a trancendental realm , and after leaving the body they arrive in that transcendental personal plane , where the trancendental pastimes of Krsna continues eternally , taking place in spiritual bodies with various forms and qualities that are not subject to material conditioning.

A variety of goals and destinations…..

There are many examples throughout the works , Lord Indra, who became disturbed because King Priyavrata was about to complete a hundredth sacrifice (Indra was the only person who had completed such a task . ) But , BECAUSE he was the king of heaven and had a large ego to go with the large […]

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SRIMAD BHAGAVATAM AND COMPARING SCIENTIFIC GOALS.

Lea Cronin and his pet monkeys…

One has to question Lee Cronin, whose speculations are running wild , believing that intelligent selections spontaneously happen by trial and error and the billions of dna coding and the thousands of parts that make up a human body practically self select . Actually, in vedic terms, the self , in literal terms, selects , with the help of the super Self , a conditioned self with certain mentality , born of actions within matter is connected to a highly complex universal systems on an ethereal plane that devolves in to countless billions of arrangement of atoms ,elements, compounds, molecules , making arrangements for the perfect machine ( the body) in which the soul can temporarily dwell , within eight million four hundred thousands of species of life in this universe , consider , each individual in a species has different individual circumstances awarded due to its granted free will and a deterministic processes within the three modes of nature , which unlimitedly mix and multiply like an artists pallet or melodies on a piano.

FURTHER interest in this topic is discussed in the Bhagavad Gita wherein Krishna gives an alternative to being engaged in matter , but yet , still working within it , when He says ” one who sees action in inaction and inaction in action ” thus the presupposed reactions within the material energies , being so called good or so called bad …….have no effects.

CRONIN assumes that a million monkeys on a million typewriters in a million years would be able to produce a Shakespeare play , just by chance… . Mmmm.

Lee Cronin selectorism theory does not explain the sources of materials or the goal of selections , or his own consciousness , his enquiries presupposes consciousness ,consciousness is the selector, not matter , and for life to occur perfectly in self replicating motions , and by a mutations process, never mind a million ingredients….how many to the power of numbers would be required ? Or types of  ingredients and  knowledge of specific natural laws that would be productive and be   required to evolve the countless tiny machines needed within the machine of the overall body that needs developing ? For example… the 100s of nano machines existing and operating in one cell of our body.

A successful living force needs a  developing mind and creative intelligence  , bearing in mind that the Darwinian thinks incorrectly that the mind and intelligence is simply neurons firing in the brain  , something that eastern philosophy and many scientists disagree with , adaptability and rational..are very much beyond chance chemical reactions…….mixing chemicals never has and never will produce consciousness…..thus Life comes from Life ….that’s our only experience.

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This trancendental phenomena ranges from its height , as Vrsabhanu Nandini Sri Radhe laughs with her friends loudly declaring victory ” The beautiful one is mine ” after Krishna fainted in ecstatic trance , experiencing Her madana Maha bhava , down to the simple rules in life that regulate the unruly , an example could be …if a man wants to eat flesh , he must whisper into the animals ear ….that today I kill you , but in a future life you can do the same to me …

Thus discouraging violence.

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