Some followers of Vedic culture misunderstand the position of the leading artists in society , be it musicians , painters , dramatic actors, or writers .
They should all be considered learned and like the Vipras in Vedic culture, ie .scholars of philosophy, some can be considered Brahminical who have further understood consciousness and the position of Divinity.
When the classic music of any culture is played , it brings one to experience human and perhaps emotional states beyond the humans , a glimpse into a greater experience of being , music of the soul .
Music and it’s formation is highly mathematical like the universe around us , physicists have discovered atoms give of vibrations , perhaps the original sound of “let there be light and life ,” as the Bible says , remains reverberating within the creation in various scales .
So , yes, artists , particularly creative artists , should never be thought of as belonging to anything other than the philosophical classes and great thinkers who inspire society to think and look differently at the world.
” From whatever and wherever the mind wanders due to its flickering and unsteady nature, one must certainly withdraw it and bring it back under the control of the Self. The nature of the mind is flickering and unsteady. But a self-realized yogi has to control the mind; the mind should not control him.: “
THE greatest of the psychologists should be consulted , the personality who originates the material mind , via His Annirudha expansion coming from His Mahavishnu form , that’s Krishna. If we really want to understand psychological processes and the processes of the mind, it is many fold . In material nature , a mind spends a lot of its time in the duality of the material world , accepting and rejecting objects of the senses , based entirely on selfish actions , either directly selfish , or selfishness connected to family , friends , community or country . A sane man follows ethical moral behaviour and laws of the land or theological texts using intelligence , however, the mind is strong .
The minds activities allows for a free reign its also influenced by previous lives , the free will wonders into the material energies and within the universal responsive universe wherein the many possibilities of the quantum atomic plane automate the next stage of our life . What the mind wants , takes time to manifest , it may take years or many lives to come to fruition, , thus the finer ethereal plane of a mind , reacts within a universal order , which manifest as the classical plane that we currently experience and the lives we lead , all these activities are the complexity of karmic synchronicity influences , the astrological influence . It means things happen in our lives we did not bargain for , but our minds contemplation and our actions always bring reactions, good or bad . As such, the Supreme psychologist must be consulted so we can all understand , just exactly where our minds are best situated , thus, Krishna speaks Bhagavad Gita ,and gives the ultimate rundown on mind and psychology.
That’s a complex topic to understand. It also comes with a range of relative answers , according to a prescription that is appropriate to a particular state of a conscious being . The Supreme psychologist Krishna, in His conversation with Arjuna on the battlefield of Kuruksetra, touches upon all the ranges and methods of controlling and understanding the mind . The Vedas elaborate further on these topics of psychology.
Divinity brings wisdom and knowledge to everyone , that’s His kindness
One who knows that Krishna knows all bodies is in knowledge.
ksetra-jnam capi mam viddhi sarva-ksetresu bharata ksetra-ksetrajnayor jnanam yat taj jnanam matam mama
TRANSLATION
O scion of Bharata, you should understand that I am also the knower in all bodies, and to understand this body and its owner is called knowledge. That is My opinion.
When the individual consciousness makes a choice to go it alone and become an independent enjoyer , an artificial position in reality , because everyone needs someone to enjoy with .
Krishna’s wish was that we had turned our attention toward Him , because Krishna , is the most expert at enjoying and has all the qualities to enliven everyone unlimitedly , so for our happiness He desires us to associate with Him and His associates.
Nevertheless , we decided to” go it alone,” and in so doing, all facilities are given , that are contained within the fourteen planetary systems of our material universe.
The individual consciousness finds itself wondering, wondering in and out of these systems, picking up various pious and impious credits or penalties , and throughout the course of time, burning them out by enjoying pious credits or suffering due to penalties , thus constantly accruing and shedding results of actions
This automated system is in place and supervised like a gigantic universal AI system that connects our consciousness to our activities and attitudes . The physicists Bohr , Schrödinger , Feynman , and Einstein of Teller would understand easily this system , the Darwinians and the scientific materialism” lot ” cannot accept , although every ancient culture you can think of , agree fully or partially with this Vedic truth of consciousness.
It’s interesting that good or bad actions are stored within consciousness and within the responsive universe, they are said to be those we are experiencing now , those in the near future and those far ahead of us in our futures .
We can understand there is so much order in the physical universe along with its laws ,perfect math is seen in nature , down to the codes in the DNA systems building bodies tailor made to suit , take this thinking and logic a step further by understanding an ethereal plane, a self selection system , and future combinations of atoms , elements and compounds that are coming our way , as well as certain attitudes and other types of consciousness association ..
Read Bhagavad Gita as it is, AC BHAKTIVEDANTA Swami.
In Vedic writings, there are many accounts recorded , giving details of how inevitable degradation of society takes place , and how Krishna in His various capacities and incarnations has to repeatedly reestablish correct management , governance , compliance and risk assessments by putting back in place the original systems of administration that He originally intends for mankind , but which become degraded , because of misuse of free will and an overly independent self seeking enjoying spirit, that leads to suffering and exploitation. Millions of years of the history of the ever fluctuating degradation of society are written .
The intelligentsia of the Brahminical order are meant to remain pure , detached, and spiritually strong , in that way keep intimate contact with Divinity and have deep insights into His desires and wishes for the direction for mankind .
When such pure hearted persons are correctly situated, the Kings, leaders, and administration as a whole automatically listen to their directions and greatly respect their wishes , the problem comes when the Brahminical order , in time becomes week and currupted for many complex reasons, at that time the Kings and administrations feel they should take exclusive power , without having to consult the Brahminical order .
This leads to an increase in passion and ignorance in society because such kings and administrative orders are too inclined to establish kingdoms on earth, and forgetfulness of spiritual direction occurs .
In time the Kings become currupt and their ministers seek to replace them , thus governments and democracy take over , this causes further degradation and a further step into ignorance, because mere political administrative persons are even more inclined to forget spiritual affairs and increase material affairs and take society in the wrong path .
History shows that such mundane administrative orders having no spiritual or proper wise king to guide them , seek guidance instead of money men , because money makers can easily currupt low class administrative persons , in todays world Globalist and international conglomerates own the world and introduce scientific materialism, liberalism , false educational systems teaching scientific matters in tainted subjective ways , and in general, such Globalist have not a clue of the deeper meaning or potential of life , and the ruin , ravage and pillage the earth and destroy communities and countries.
Take a look at the world.
ISKCON are pointing these things out and have solutions and systems to reestablish order back into society and they have the process of how the brahman order can easily remain pure in current times
Ethical trading is an important term , just how ethical , ethical trading is , one would have to research the traders and financiers that make such claims.
What is the Vedic veiw of trading currency, commodities , oil, stocks and shares, an in depth study of micro and macro economics is needed , along with trading standards, practically speaking the public are unaware of what goes on behind closed doors, with micro second trading and the easy access to groups of persons setting up insider trading , its common knowledge the dark Webb is full of deceptive crooked persons making the most of such facilities to exploit , with very little legislators or law enforcement looking into such dodgy dealers , they can very easily make a fast buck and cheat others . Unfortunately, this is all far too acceptable in current times, and central governance is lightweight, with lobby groups working to keep lightweight legislation loaded in their favour .
The Vedic view , simple , if knowing that others are being exploited , one turns a blind eye , casting ethics and morality to one side , one becomes implicated and the slice of the financial action comes along with a slice of a different kind , karma . For instance African farmers being cheated in the commodity market, with deliberate and fixed artificial fluctuations in prices , caused by greed for money , such as buying up vast majority of certain commodities as conglomerates and monopolies , paying the farmers poorly, then holding such commodities , not selling to cause artificial shortages , thus causing inflated prices , to sell later , its all unethical trading . Persons who loose money caused by insider trader information, is obviously common place , anyone benifiting in an existing port follio , will be implicated , karmic reaction is at work, this is a universe that runs by compliance and governance, with unavoidable administration powers from a super subjective realm .
The Vedic systems would thoroughly overhaul , simplify investments , making it more localised and beneficial for home nations and local businesses as well as local communities ,and not geared up for the global conglomerates.
Because Western democracies, although originally having good intentions in the early stages , have become infiltrated and overly influenced by conglomerates and global finance companies, global financial powers now rule over the political classes , actually, they run rings around them , such conglomerates and global finance companies can afford to pay some of the smartest people and they have trillions of dollars to invest in computer technologies and now AI .which is not understood by standard politicians. Both the political classes and the global conglomerates have no idea where their buisness models are going long term, and what effects it has on the communities or the environment or the stability of finance for individual countries. If one listens to Sandra Boss , chair of black rock UK. You will see how she runs rings around the political committee who is supposed to regulate what her company does .
Democracy has lost its way , the original idea is to vote for good leaders , but unfortunately nobody knows what the qualifications of good leader are , and the real intelligentsia are being silenced by the media companies who are owned by Globalist , every one of them political animals , so now free thinking journalists are few and far between.
The Vedic reformation, which is under way, will educate people to see through deceit and redirect society for everyones progresssion and benefits.
Einstein spoke of the space time continuum. This parallels the Vedic scientific truths of the consequences of a jiva within the total material energies along with a free will , or a free wont , free wont means one controls the demands of the mind and senses. And leads a disciplined life .
The past is affecting the present , and the present will affect the future and the curiously the past at times .
Ultimately, it’s said in the Vedas that the artificial independent life of a jiva , who in reality is completely dependent on Divinity for everything , and is being awarded and given sanction by Divinity for everything they do . This power to act or restrictions are calculated according to previous interactions within the individuals universal affairs . Indeed Divinity Himself has to give the impetus and intelligence for the jiva to enter into the individuals tiny artificial material life . Every id happening under the watch of the supersoul, such are the complexities of the material matrix , Divinity Himself has to demonstrate to the living beings and give them examples , directly or indirectly of how to utilise life and become an independent enjoyer . First Divinity acts , first Divinity sees , through His unlimited expansions, then the entity picks up inspiration and follows .
So, the multidimensional space time entanglements are first enacted by Divinity , this is elaborated upon by Srila Jiva Goswami in his Bhagavat Sandarbha, with that in mind and considering what Shakespeare said ,” life is like a stage , we are actors ,” who is to say that , the 1920s 1930s 1940s 1950s and all of those inconsequential activities that took place , inconsequential when compared to the eternal energies , are not constantly being played out somewhere within the multidimensional universes . After all, how many planets are in our universe, and according to the Vedas, there are countless universes .
The inconceivable energies and consciousness of Divinity have to be accepted as a reality before one can progress in knowledge of Divinity and His workings , one has to admit one is firmly in the grips of His energies…The Darwinian hypothesis has to be shed …Everything is happening by the supreme desire of Divinity
The Vedas agree with the Christians that God is outside His creation, but the Vedas clarify. He is also within it as well with multifarious energies working as one and different than Him . Ultimately, the atomic realm is highly ordered , i.e., depending on the amount of protons in the atom, determine the elements it forms , and, for instance, the chemistry in molecular structures are extremely complicated to make . Chemists remain puzzled , how life started on an early earth , how did everything combine so effectively and efficiently ? Carbohydrates can be hooked together in millions of ways . Although the chemical evolutionary thinkers assume it inevitably happened in time , it’s their answer to everything, ie , a billion monkeys on a billion typewriters for a billion years producing a Shakespeare play . BUT, when they try to artificially hook chemicals together , they don’t come up with 100% purity , and during their processes, they rely on bought molecules that have come from nature , so nothing from scratch. So the Vedas explains Divinities arrangements at work , His intelligence is non different than Himself , and by his supream science and willpower , the atoms, elements , compounds are formed as needed to house the individual consciousness that needs a specific body . When the consciousness is injected into matter , with the presence of the consciousness spontaneous replication of cells begin , within consciousness, molecules dont move towards life . The consciousness of the living being sits with the Supersoul, or Holy Ghost, and information exchanges in the genome are inacted, and the structures and formations of the body take place . Like Amazon boss Jeff Bezos , his intelligence is indirectly running his business. But he is also outside his business , so scale that up to a multidimensional space time continuum and the work of God’s unlimited intelligence , AI .taken to levels beyond ones current thinking ..
SRIMAD BHAGAVATAM 1.1.1.
Says this ..
O my Lord, Śrī Kṛṣṇa, son of Vasudeva, O all-pervading Personality of Godhead, I offer my respectful obeisances unto You. I meditate upon Lord Śrī Kṛṣṇa because He is the Absolute Truth and the primeval cause of all causes of the creation, sustenance and destruction of the manifested universes. He is directly and indirectly conscious of all manifestations, and He is independent because there is no other cause beyond Him. It is He only who first imparted the Vedic knowledge unto the heart of Brahmājī, the original living being. By Him even the great sages and demigods are placed into illusion, as one is bewildered by the illusory representations of water seen in fire, or land seen on water. Only because of Him do the material universes, temporarily manifested by the reactions of the three modes of nature, appear factual, although they are unreal. I therefore meditate upon Him, Lord Śrī Kṛṣṇa, who is eternally existent in the transcendental abode, which is forever free from the illusory representations of the material world. I meditate upon Him, for He is the Absolute Truth.
Vedas indicate. What you need to know you’ll know. What you deserve to know you’ll know . What you don’t need to know you’ll not know. What you don’t deserve to know you’ll not know .
The Vaisnavas are very simple hearted, open people who don’t hoard knowledge, rather they are an open book , the demons are very secretive , they engage in tantrics , directly or indirectly, or seek astrological energies and sacrifices to the Demigods as they desperately try to build their energies and influence , using any methods to hand , all of it self centred.
A decending process to access the highest pure spiritual planes is at play based on something way beyond academics or any manipulation of tantric energies or astrological calculations or karma .
Generally, in the material world, it’s thought knowledge is entirely an ascending process, and to some degree that can be accepted , by study and hard work one can aquire an understanding of a topic but to really understand something ,in its depths something else is also at play .
Richard Feynman mentions these points , a PHD can be a complete fool , and in reality , epistemological calculations are another factor.
How do you know you know ,? how do you know you know you know ?
In the vedas, it’s described there can be knowledge and realized knowledge. it’s termed jnana and vijnana .
Ultimately, in all events, depending on an individual , what their desires are , and how they conduct their lives and who they associate with will determine the knowledge they aquire .
Human life is meant for sacrifice and cultivating knowledge of Divinity, and opening our secretive self calculating hearts to Him and His pure representatives , that alone will further our consciousness .
The self evident truth that all beings are spiritually equal but are placed in different bodies can be realized ,at beginning stages , as well as later , understanding Divinities localized aspect can begin to be perceived , and then further, His original form , or His expansions can be approached.
The Vedic truth of “once one thing is known everything is known ” is to be understood , how can that be how is this to be understood.
So don’t hoard knowledge in a secret way or take some of God’s universal energy for selfish reasons, open and share everything.
The loving affairs of Divinity and the Supreme Goddess of fortune cannot by understood by an uncultured fellow , whose mind and senses are aborbed in the material energies, and who unintelligently goes about his life like a sophisticated animal, with no thoughts for real science or any philosophical inquiry. One whose mind and senses are absorbed in , or attracted to , the material physical nature of sex in the material realms , both in the lower , middle, and upper planetary systems , are like amateur jewelers who mistake cheap cut glass to be diamonds.
This truth has been clearly delineated by Srila Rupa Goswami and the spiritual teachers , they sing of the glorious nature of the origins of loving affairs that are based on an eternal soul to soul exchange in ever increasing ecstatic emotions in an eternal spiritual body with unlimited senses , this esoteric aspect of the Vedas, which is concealed, has been revealed by Sri Caitanya Mahāprabhu
The impersonal philosophical thinkers try to eliminate emotional responses and make efforts to find a oneness from within , it’s what the Vedas call brahman realised consciousness , like merging into the divine light of the soul into the aura of Divinity.
But Divinity is more than a spiritual effulgence , and His full personality and activities are completely astounding, to say the least .
The material energies provide clues as to the nature of a spiritual reality full of varigatedness, the material energies display for learning purposes varying degrees of degradation as well as the highest and the most admirable qualities . Culture of knowledge and purity is advised in all theological texts so that a gradual awakening can begin to advance ones consciousness to its highest possible potential and then go beyond.
A full display of real consciousness occurs only in the company of the origins of all loving exchanges ,Divinity Himself, and such exchanges are expressed in five primary ways in the purest of consciousness with no trace of selfishness or lust or ambition to be a separate enjoyer . Satisfaction of the trancendental emaculate senses of Divinity , who is eternally reciprocating in ever new ways , is described in the Srimad Bhagavatam, which is the cream of the Vedas .
It should be understood and heard from the lips of pure devotees , who have no other interest other than unalloyed service to Divinity and His associates.
Throughout theological history, there’s always been a debate and different extreme positions taken in regards to who can access a direct relationship with Divinity and even if it’s at all possible .
In the teachings of the Vedas, this example is given , that a turtle swimming in the ocean, pops its head up for a breath of air , by chance at that place where the turtle surfaces a log is floating in the ocean , which has hole in it , the turtles head pops directly into that hole , such a rare chance event can be compared to the rarity of the appearance in this world of the top most pure representatives of Divinity .
The great Vedic teacher Srila Bhaktivinod Thakur, says that Sri Caitanya Mahāprabhu , who is considered to be Krishna Himself , is teaching by example, and is the perfect Guru in that sense , Bhaktivinod Thakur also says His direct disciples , Srila Rupa Goswami and Ragganathha das and the other four prominent Goswamis of Vrndavana spoken of by Gaudia Vaisnavas , should all be regarded as our own personal Siksa Gurus , he also says finding topmost Guru is rare , but Mahaprabhu has come to act as perfect Guru , and taught the prominent Devotees particularly Rupa Ragganatha, thus we can take it , that space time , does not get in the way of Divine connections , and full realisation of Mahaprabhu’s teaching are full accessible via Mahaprabhu’s devotees.
The Catholic and Protestants , fight over the direct relationship with Divinity issue , as do the Muslim faith , they also fight over who is the pure representatives , family lines from original teachers or non family lines , from those who have heard and assimilated the wisdom.
Fortunately the Vedas give as the answers, The Guru, Sadhu Sastra truth , are three in one , that also means that each is an authority, but each can be checked against each other .
The other aspects of Spiritual teachers are also clear , Guru comes in many forms , and of different calibers , and each connection is valuable at a given time , but Srila Bhaktisiddanta Sarasvati Goswami says , you should also follow your heart , and its also imperative to take training and render strict services or deeply respect all our Gurus who are present, once that humility has been perfected , the whole of the param para through their litratures come alive , as does the spiritual world and the residents thereof.
So we can never bypass genuine saints or neglect to honour them . By that process, all the saints become accessible and they direct us to Srimati Radharani and Lord Krishna and Their family and associates. One Diksa Guru is generally accepted , but one can have many Siksa Gurus .