“Religion without science is blind and science without religion is lame.” Einstein .
Bohr accepted both classical and quantum physics. As the Vedas do . The world is real but temporary. The consciousness and the universe are linked together by the interests and desires of the consciousness. When the consciousness understands that he or she is something different than the universe , ie . being freed from scientific materialism and coming to clearly understand dualism. Intelligently, one should question why the living beings have become subjected to the laws of the universe , if they so do, they gradually acquire knowledge and detachment from universal connections and that is the beginning of liberation . Gradually, by understanding and by engaging in devotional activities, to the cause of all causes , a purified living being can enter a plane where consciousness and the energy surrounding it are of the same nature . The Vedas say the spiritual symptoms of that realm are that things are eternally situated and fully blissful without any neglect or ignorance of Divinity .Rather, a relationship with Him is acted out in full . Once Edward Teller had tea with Neils Bohr, and he said to Bohr, ” You have changed everything in the way we view the world, and in the future, everyone will see the world much differently..” After a long pause, Bohr said, ” Are you saying this world is not real but like a dream?” http://www.thevedicspectator.com
Qualities of the Supreme reflected in His expansions ,
We see many wonderful qualities in mankind , actually , we see wonderful qualities in the whole of the creation and here we refer to just one planet look at the night sky the mind boggles at the inconceivable nature of this one galaxy with its system of planets . This is one small part of the universe, and the Vedas confirms millions of universes are in existence , as the string theorists postulate.
What’s even more inconceivable is that each planet has a purpose and is inhabited , the Vedas tell us , Lisa Randall, the Harvard of theoretical physics, quite rightly points out the obvious implications of multidimensional space , our senses are limited to three dimensions . This means each of us has limited senses , and we see things only in three dimensions . She points out why there could well be more dimensions “out there” and also refers to dark space and dark energies as unknown energies.
The Vedas indicates God is full of multiple energies and how He expands His energies in multitudes of ways. This includes His expansions of internal energies, which are the conscious beings scattered within the material and spiritual planetary systems. The Vedas broadly categorise His internal, marginal, and external energies and give explicit details to each .
So, as God is full of unlimited wonderful qualities , the living beings naturally reflect a minute portion of those qualities, as does everything in creation , He is a supreme scientist and engineer but also someone overflowing with love for all beings.
There is systematic supervisory management in place. The right type of action brings forth particular superior and inherent qualities, and the wrong actions suppress the flow, causing entanglements . In the familiar language of many, one can say one’s good or bad karma . Freedoms and progressions can be tapped into at any time, and in no time at all, one can reestablish all of one’s inherent spiritual qualities that stem from and are reflected from Divinity.
The Bhagavad Gita tells us how in detail and many prescribed methods are outlined.
Endless possibilities of benedictions offered by Sri Caitanya Mahāprabhu.
Sri Caitanya Mahāprabhu the Vedas indicate as the most munificent incarnation of Godhead , who along with His intimate associates , give unlimited benedictions to one and all everyone will gain , to paraphrase Sir Winston Churchill , “never has so much “trancendence ” been given by so few to so many .” This trancendental unprecedented ocean of bliss has decended into this world , its fast increasing in its capacities and is imperceptible influencing the whole of society . At the same time, its a mystery to those persons currently deeply absorbed in material affairs , they can’t understand Mahaprabhu or these benediction he is pouring upon on the hapless and unfortunate souls of Kali yuga .
Through the association of His devotees , through the chanting of the Holy names , through extensive educational programmes and the study of the Srimad Bhagavatam and the original Vedas , through distribution of prasadam sanctified food offered in sacrifice , His pure devotee representatives who represent the Gaudia Vaisnava acaryas are executing this massive global relief work , and turning society away from the dark direction it was heading in .
Perhaps the most essential benediction for a mature student seeking the essence of Mahaprabhu’s teachings , is He has allowed them to dive deep into the ocean of bliss giving them access and increasing understandings by reading or hearing of the works of Rupa Ragganatha , and their representatives who intimately associated with Sri Caitanya Mahāprabhu . Srila Svarūpa Damodar , one of the confidential servants of Mahāprabhu once stood in puzzlement as to how it was Srila Rupa Goswami had understood the inner heart of Caitanya Mahaprabhu which he conveyed on his writings . But on discussion with Caitanya Mahaprabhu, he soon realised Srila Rupa Goswami had the special benediction bestowed on by Mahāprabhu Himself . That same benediction is currently still available and is also bestowed to the most inquisitive in this current world , one requires a greed to want to know.
AC Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada would say such teachings, and Lila descriptions about Krishna are like a sweet ball . Wherever you bite into it , its nectarine and fully relishable taste is experienced.
kṛṣṇa-varṇaṁ tviṣākṛṣṇaṁ sāṅgopāṅgāstra-pārṣadam yajñaiḥ saṅkīrtana-prāyair yajanti hi su-medhasaḥ
Translation
In the Age of Kali, intelligent persons perform congregational chanting to worship the incarnation of Godhead, who constantly sings the names of Kṛṣṇa. Although His complexion is not blackish, He is Kṛṣṇa Himself. He is accompanied by His associates, servants, weapons, and confidential companions.
In conversing with a priest recently at the Sri Sri Radha Gopinatha temple in Vrndavana, we came to see differences in tattva .
He said” Janhava mata was not Ananga Manjari . Why are you bringing in Dvarpa yuga to Kali yuga “
But we pointed out that Nityananda prabhu was Balarama Himself , and Krishna appears in all Yugas.
) Lord Krishna, who is the son of the King of Vraja, became the son of Saci (Lord Caitanya) and Balarama became Nitai. The holy name delivered all those souls who were lowly and wretched. The two sinners, Jagai and Madhai are evidence of this.
Srila Narottoma das Thakur is a representative of the Gaudia Vaisnava disciplic succession a member of the Bhagavat line of Siksa Gurus , who wrote this song .
Of course, the problems come because Krishna is a hidden incarnation in Kali yuga . Although the evidence in Sastra is there in some places and can be found , including the Mahabharata.
Another problem was when I asked him for the Sastra on his points , he said no Sastra are there but family traditions from family guru to family guru this knowledge is passed down .
Srila Bhaktivinod Thakur respected some family lineage of the Gaudia Vaisnavas , but the Bhagavat line is currently predominant in Gaudia Vaisnavism, and evidence from both guru , Sadhu and sastra are required so authentic tattva can be understood in this age .
The origins of the Gaudia Vaisnava sampradaya is Sri Caitanya Mahāprabhu through His representatives, the six Goswamis. He has given real insights into the ever expanding Srimad Bhagavatam. Particularly the Pranaya the oneness of love and love in union and separation of The Supreme Goddess of fortune Srimati Radharani.
So we respect the family lineage of the Vrndavana priest’s but may not agree with their understanding of Tattva on all occasions
AC Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada wanted to create an intelligent class of men and women, one of his main purposes of ISKCON , both Brahminical men and learned Vedic Vipras in particular fields . Prabhupada clearly says in his purports to teach krishna consciousness through science, the arts , through economics, political affairs, etc etc , he had in mind both cor spiritual goals and the peripherals that are essential in society that lead to the cor . The conversations that Sri Caitanya Mahāprabhu had with Ramananda Raya makes all these things clear as do the trancendental activites of the Goswami’s who wanted to help all people understand religious principles and transcendence. In broad Vedic cultures whatever the religious tendency, even meat eating and certain intoxication under conditions are given allowance , as are the many types of religions , as Krishna makes clear in Bhagavad Gita , in discussions of the different types of faith of different types of persons . Eventually ISKCON will have to deeply research all aspects of the Vedas to bring its contents to the modern world , with time place and circumstances applications , many scholars are needed and the setting up of ” think tanks ” setting Vedic visionary recommendation giving advice for governance and compliance of future societies ISKCON is still in its beginning stages , Srila Prabhupada was quite serious, as was Srila Bhaktisiddanta and Srila Bhaktivinod Thakur in introducing and establishing principles of Varna Ashram , meaning establishing the real intelligentsia to be able to influence the directions that society heads in , every thing else automatically flows perfectly from there . . http://www.thevedicspectator.com
When Krishna consciousness is explained properly and from the right sources its very appealing , its appealing on many different levels to many different types of persons, the example of this is AC Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada who established a world wide movement called ISKCON, with countless followers , a huge array of litratures and media resources and huge temples world wide , all originating from one person who understood Krishna consciouseness and was able to communicate it purely . The ISKCON movement also invigorated other Gaudia Vaisnava teachers and movements , which also flourish . The Vedic teachings of an original untainted Varna Ashram system based on the qualities of a person and not solely birth rights is being spread and will further spread throughout the world , a society based on more simple living , higher thinking and most importantly societies led by the true intelligensia.
The fanatical Christian and Muslim approaches to God consciousness with a heaven and eternal hell philosophy, based on a particular fanatical unthinking Christian or Muslim so-called scholar , should be roundly rejected. One should seek the true meanings contained in the Bible or koran . That not how the all merciful all-encompassing and inherently good and wise God is , such perverted interpretations do a great disservice to the God they are trying to represent. In every theological culture , one should reject the unthinking and unschorlarly fanatic , who seeks to change and interpret God to accommodate the tiny brains of the spectator who have inpure motives. http://www.thevedicspectator.com
Someone suggested, “Keep digging, and science will find the truth …” But .. With the endlessly mutable material energies that could be difficult, the cyclic motions of the volcanic eruptions that replenish the richness of the oceans that provide plankton with nourishment is essential . Replenishing is going on on many levels , everything in nature is in constant flux . The decending process of knowledge, i.e., insights and wisdom , based on purity of consciousness and an honest quest for knowledge is an important method for acquisition of truths and should not be dismissed . Beethoven himself wondered how his musical compositions flowed into him , why just music . The wisdom of all kinds of traditions, along with their histories, are worthy to explore , theological, and otherwise . Soley relying on a fragile and speculative and limited intelligence has its limitations . Unfortunately, in todays world, it is regarded as the only credible method, and it’s masquerading as the only fact based science. In reality , although it has its purpose, even in Vedic circles, i.e., jnana yoga , some things may be beyond the abilities of the intellectual capabilities . As Newton said whilst on a beach , I have one grain of sand of knowledge, but the whole of the world sands stands before me …..something like that . The value of objective science and logical truth should never be replaced by subjective speculations , for instance, no one now denies the highly organised and highly complex cell , and it has hundreds of nano like protein machines all serving special purposes. Darwin thought the cell was like a mutable cloud or jelly like substance. The reality is that the more science looks into workings of the universe or the microbial world, the more astounded they are at its organisation and what is increasingly looking like designed engineering. http://www.thevedicspectator.com
The Vedas and its multicultural approach to every political group , an all-encompassing vision .
In history, we find many political battles and nations fighting for one reason or another , the fighting between the left and the right , between capitalism and communism etc etc .
But the Vedic cultures identify varieties of people living in varieties of ways , according to their predisposed natures . The Vedas recognise the different outlook’s of people and although all men are equal , same time due to karmic states and varieties of mentalities , everyone has to be accommodated , facilitated and helped along to lead progressive and happy lives in different ways . Numerous types of faiths and numerous goals of particular people’s are inevitable and discussed by Krishna in His Bhagavad Gita. There was no question of dictatorships but rather structures with varieties of laws and justice systems with different expectations from different types of persons.
Ultimately, for societies to knit together properly, it takes very broad thinkers with detailed and all incorporating types of intelligence , not unthinking fanatics . One thing that was always in place in Vedic Cultures was the head . Societies were taken like a body, head , arms , belly, and legs . Societies must have the most thoughtful and intelligent people leading them . The Vedas tell us about the different types of intelligences that will be functioning in social administrations and recommend the most suitable types for the social , scientific , philosophical , economic, and spiritual education . Each of which is applied in a myriad of ways in prescribed ways , one glove does not fit all .
In the vedas part are designated as the puranas , 18 puranas , six for people in goodness , six for people in passion six for people in ignorance . Krishna tells us in Bhagavad Gita of the different types of persons and faiths and how they are best administered to .
Consciousness causing genes or genes causing consciousness ?
The Darwinians suppose that your genes cause the particular consciousness that you exhibit , and to an extent that can be accepted due to being given a body by a prescriptive method. However, that tells but a partial story , the journey of how we come to accept a particular body can be long and complex, and our past , present, and futures are involved . The conscious beings are always accompanied by one of the unlimited expansions of Divinity , the highly complex “self selection process ” along with incalculable informational exchanges provides the guidance mechanism towards particular types of genes that programme the ACTG to form a particular body . In Bhagavad Gita Krishna indicates that in many verses He is the knower of all bodies, and he knows the ” field ” of activities that the body will experience. Although independent of parents on one level , on the subtle level , the Vedas say , the living beings in human form share percentages of the subtle energies of our parents . The energy of mind and consciousness has not been addressed by the mechanistic Darwinians , who seem to conveniently ignore such matters , assuming neurons by chance cause complex consciousness conditioning as well as incredibly creative forces within some people’s intelligence . The Vedas and other cultures indicate consciousness and matter as two entirely separate energies . So we are dealing with developing bodies as well as minds ,with an awarded intellectual power .
According to the Vedas, nothing is happening by chance events, but rather by design, Bhagavad Gita tells us we have to take responsibility for our designated lot .
Although on one level everyone is equal, as the founding fathers of the USA quite rightly cast into the USA constitution, in other ways there are obviously massive variations within the material bodies , minds and intellects, and circumstances one is born into . Everything in people’s lives is different, and every one of us is totally unique. The encouraging aspect to Vedic cultures is that we are dynamic in so many ways and are never static or fixed . We should never feel conditioned or stuck . Rather always moving, in one direction or another . So, social mobility and progress are always waiting to be tapped into by anybody . No one should ever feel trapped in particular bodies or minds . As the old song goes ” If you wish upon a star, it makes no difference who you are” that’s a very Vedic concept , sung by Judy Garland
So, by karmic synchronicities, one aquires a particular body and particular circumstances . It’s a temporary fleeting turn of events . The idea is to solve the real problem . Birth , death , old age , and disease , and not to get overly attached to happiness or distress of this one life , which come and go like the winter and summer seasons.
Making advances toward knowledge , solving once and for all the real problems of life , instead of solely spending ones time building up kingdoms that will inevitably collapse, is encouraged in Vedic culture . Neglecting to ask where we came from and where we are going and surrendering our intelligence to the speculative Darwinian is not really very intelligent.
The whole process of Krishna consciousness is transformational , and the full principle of yukta viragya comes into play . Just add Krishna to your already existing life . One should be Bearing in mind that the Vedas indicates the material universes are built on the transformed and devolved Brahman energy , otherwise known as spiritual light . The effulgence and energies of God , which serve multifarious purposes, are non different to Him and multidimensional in makeup. Instant communication as well as transportation faster than the speed of light are puzzling concepts . Not to the Vedic students , who understand that a mind provides instant transportation . Now ,because the Brahman effulgence spreads throughout the multidimensional universes , and has been in some cases transformed into mater ,its part of Divinity Himself , He is fully conscious of every part of it , so not a blade of grass moves without Him being conscious of it . Instant communication means Divinity knows everything instantaneously about His extensive energies as much as we know what’s going on within our own bodies . When anyone uses anything in the service of God , such as sound , litratures , any of the elements of matter , or our minds , or intelligence , because of being used in connection with Divinity as an offering to Him it directly connects our consciousness to the consciousness of Divinity . By following the directions of the previous transcendental Proffesors , who have all given expert directions of how . At that point , the….”I ” “me “, and ” mine” changes . The purified concept of…. “I am a part and parcel of God begins to develop. Further, one can realise God and His associates are my family , in the sense that I belong with them exclusively. The consciousness is changed. Everything we do and see is transformed and will remind us of Divinity and transport us immediately to the spiritual world. When Srila AC Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada or any pure devotee stands before the Marble Deity , he stands before Krishna Himself . When he reads the Krishna Lila recorded by the Goswami’s or other renowned acaryas, he enters into the spiritual and trancendental topics .When he chants Gods name or recites the Bhagavatam, he is within the spiritual world. This is the experience of a top most ‘ Uttama ‘ devotee . The material sounds and actions reverberate and take one into much further entanglements , of which there are many possibilities . However, when spiritual actions are performed, matter can be and is transformed. For example, if you heat up iron in fire, it acts like fire , someone may say , no, it’s iron , we say touch it , it is like fire .
The more gold is kept in fire, the purer it becomes. If the student keeps themselves in the fire of Krishna consciousness, everything can be gradually transformed, and the so-called matter transports one instantaneously to spiritual consciousness. Thus, all God’s energies are spiritual in one sense and transformational each interacts with the other ….
In regards to the current world view of our so-called leaders …
A scientific theory is a well-substantiated explanation of some aspect of the natural world, based on a body of facts that have been repeatedly confirmed through observation and experiment. Such fact-supported theories are not “guesses” but reliable accounts of the real world.
What body of facts have the Darwinians got .?
Has their hypothesis been repeatedly confirmed through observation and experiment. ?
Are the Darwinians guessing. ?
They have no real facts. Nothing is repeatedly confirmed , they are guessing . Objective reality….?, they have a failing hypothoisis , Unguided chance mutations and scientific materialism as a world model that’s driving the modern world in harmful and exploitative . It needs replacing with the consciousness revolution . Dualism has far-reaching implications and changes every calculation . Consciousness studies must be learned from those who realise the oneness of all beings in the huge array of diversities and not from the so called religious but uneducated, and unthinking fanatic who fails to see a multicultured world along with various theistic cultures . http://www.thevedicspectator.com
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