As much as Lord Krishna Himself was appearing to act like a ksatriya or a cowhearder but was not entangled in action reactions of karma’s or any of the energies of the material world which are selfishly motivated in one way or another , similarly Krishna’s pure devotees act within this world. Krishna says one who see action in inaction and inaction in action action is situated in knowledge. Thus the establishment of the Devi Varna Ashram within societal affairs are trancendental affairs meant to bring about a revolution in the consciousness of mankind ..That is the ultimate mission of Srila AC Bhaktivedanta Swami and all those who help him either within or outside ISKCON….
The correct way to understand how to implement the Vedic societies and their natural systems in an original untainted state , beyond the perversions of smarta caste consciousness, is to add Krishna consciousness to the already existing social system . The founder Acarya of ISKCON Srila AC Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada would say you only have to add Krishna consciousness into the proceedings. Within all societies, there are the intelligentsia both of the scholarly kind and the spirituality realised kind who understand body, mind and consciousness , they should be the guiding light if they are pure and are expert in understanding every aspect of the Vedas .Also, within societal affairs, we will find good protectors of society who feel for the people and want the best for everyone, they are warriors and administrators or leaders of mankind , they are “out there ” .
Naturally, there are business persons who love to turn a profit and can keep economics running nicely , and then we have craftsmen and workers .
Everyone simply needs to add knowledge of Divinity, ie , Knowledge of body mind and consciousness, dualism.
When the top of society is put right, the rest automatically follows . Social and spiritual mobility is included within the original Varna Ashram system, which is important. Things get stale and perverted when someone or a particular group of people or even a society or a country think of themselves as superior and need no lessons from anyone.
5.4×10235.4 cross 10 to the 23rd power5.4×1023 or 540,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 miles.
Modern science assumes the universe three dimensional. However, the Vedas brings us to the realisations of the multidimensional universe . So , the measurement of the Vedic universe incorporates aspects of the universe that are near and yet far away from limited senses . Certainly, there are red shift anomalies in the calculations of modern science, Red shifts appear much closeer than they are expected, as Sadaputa prabhu, of Dr Richard Thompson, mentioned in his book on Vedic cosmology . Are the stars so far away ? on one level , maybe , on another level, maybe not .
For instance, the Vedic cosmological calculations describe multidimensional space , and only 800 miles above this planet, an Upadeva planet exist in their own particular dimension , mystics and yogis can at times commune or even commute the this plane .
The greatly renowned Vedic cosmological scholar in Gaudiya Vaisnavism says this ..
“Srila Bhaktisiddhanta Saraswati Goswami Thakura, recognized as a master of both Siddhantic Vedic astronomy and Puranic literature, provided specific measurements regarding the size of the universe based on classical Vedic texts
. He maintained that the universe is vast, egg-shaped (brahmanda), and, while immense, is only one of innumerable universes in the material creation.
Measurements and Structure
Circumference: Citing the Siddhanta-siromani, Srila Bhaktisiddhanta Saraswati gave the circumference of this universe as 18,712,069,200,000,000×818 comma 712 comma 069 comma 200 comma 000 comma 000 cross 818,712,069,200,000,000×8 miles.
Diameter: The inner part of the universe is described as having a diameter of approximately 5,956,200 crore yojanas (roughly 47,649,600 billion miles), according to traditional interpretations.
Enveloping Layers: The universe is not just the inner space but is enveloped by seven material layers—water, fire, air, space, mind, intelligence, and ego. Each layer is ten times thicker than the previous one.( these layers could be understood as the potentials of the atomic and quantum realms ready to respond to the needs of the classical physical world)
Total Size: When accounting for these seven layers, the total diameter is calculated as over 5×10145 cross 10 to the 14th power5×1014 billion miles, which is often interpreted as approximately 90 billion light-years.
Perspective on Cosmology
Inconceivable Size: He emphasized that these dimensions are inconceivable to the tiny brain of a human being and cannot be fully measured by human scientists.
Innumerable Universes: He highlighted that this universe is considered the smallest among the innumerable universes, which exist in the material creation.
Vs. Modern Science: He supported the view of the universe as a round sphere (bhu-mandala) by citing authorities like the Surya Siddhanta, Siddhanta Siromani, and Aryabhata.
Purpose of Knowledge: He taught that the ultimate purpose of this knowledge is not mere physical measurement, but to recognize the supreme potency of God (Kṛṣṇa).
In summary, Srila Bhaktisiddhanta Saraswati presented the Vedic view of a very large, layered, and multi-layered universe that is relatively small compared to the total material, and ultimately, spiritual creation. “
Srila Visvanatha Cakravati Thakur indicates in his Bhagavad Gita Chapter 4 text 10 that by performing jnana tapasya, one can attain realisations of the eternal nature and appearance of Divinity. “One becomes purified by austerity in the form of tolerating the burning poison of wrong ideas or thinking , wrong logic, and wrong arguments.” he says . The Gaudia Vaisnava acaryas have some stalwart scholars amongst them Srila Rupa Goswami, Srila Jiva Goswami to begin with and of course Srila Visvanatha Cakravati Thakur and in recent times ,Srila Bhaktivinod Thakur, Srila Bhaktisiddhanta Sarasvati Goswami, Srila BR Sridhar Swami and the extremely intelligent and very practical Srila AC Bhavtivedanta Swami who miraculously brought Krishna consciousness all over the world inspiring and teaching some of his leading disciples…
Ramanuja acaryas says wise persons give up attachments, effections or fears, or anger for those who speak nonsensical ways , because the wise are throughly absorbed in meditations, hearing, chanting and singing and speaking of the glories of Krishna and His associates and cannot really be disturbed .
Material calculations of every kind ….within modern societies
Much unthinking much speculation.
Mass education in the West centred around scientific materialism and Darwinian hypothesis is facilitating lots of unoriginal and unthinking persons , each of whom follow like sheep or lemmings off a cliff previously established speculative persons. They generally think the piece of paper they call a degree makes them smart , generally such person who even have higher degrees or PHD’S step up as government advisors and bring with them their unoriginal and unthinking minds . If we take a look at Western societies and their governance and compliance systems and see the mess they get the world in . The sciences they continue to present , their unthinking ideas , to other unthinking persons , in the name of objective sciences , although they are clearly not , then its no wonder that the great and very honest and objective Richard Feynman said “that you can have a pocket full of PHD’S and still be a complete idiot “… http://www.thevedicspectator.com
Stephen Hawkins thought towards the end of his life that the universe just popped out of some random quantum and unspecified field, so perhaps consciousness too had occurred in a similar fashion. Universes and consciousness could have just popped out of any specific point , atoms and energies are surrounding us, he thought , and actually, “we dont know their origins or what they are capable of ” . He speculated in these ways. The scientific materialism disciples have to ignore the precision and precise universe ,that is objectively seen to exhibit perfect math and symmetry. ” A God ” ,say the atheistic Darwinian or follower of scientific materialism , that’s ” impossible “ curious conclusions , Richard Dawkins tells his students to ignore any ” appearance of design ” The late and great Sadaputa prabhu joked about this, saying, ” Here is a point , and here is another point and here another, which one did the universe or consciousness pop out of “ Of course, in Vedic terms , indeed, Krishna who originated the universe and the individual particles of consciousness, is within every atom .However, He is also outside the atom .He is near but far , inside and outside , very small but universally gigantic. Everything stems from one source , the cause of all causes has multifarious energies at his disposal. He , we can say, is the supreme ” point ” of everything in more ways than one .
Cern ….and the chasing of particles …..
The Vedas would indicate that Higgs Boson is just the beginning of a series of smaller and smaller particles that lead to an ethereal plane . The subtle energies have an inherant connection to every kind of matter, and such ethereal energies origins with a transformation of sound , sound means something, or someone is making sound , and sound means a command as well . Consciousness in conditioned life is attracted to and simultaneously attached to matter , in one sense, it’s the cause of conditioned life , an attraction serves as a cause of a series of events . God does not manifest matter for his pleasure , it’s for our independence from him , its us that desire to be an artificial supreme enjoyer, in imitation, however an enjoyer must be able to bring everyone enjoyment , we cant , in fact in our enjoyment we make others suffer .Krishna creates and does so because we desire to live separately from Him . Krishna’s responsive universe makes all arrangements , ultimately everything in every detail is stemming from Him , the cause of all causes, mind, matter, etc etc , He sees and hears first , then we can see and hear . The Srimad Bhagavatam 1.1.1 describes everything in one statement. Look it up .
When we say our universe is a responsive universe , it’s responsive to the continuous independent actions of the countless living particles of consciousness who reside within its fourteen planetary systems . We mean, of course, there is a personal element to all these affairs . Everything is ultimately personal and stems from originally one creative personality that becomes many . This is Divinity or God or Krishna, the supreme Personality of Godhead, every theologically driven culture indicates God , each theological culture will find different things to say about the unlimited, time , place and circumstance differ in their different accounts. Nothing automated anywhere gets automated of its own accord, of course. There is a plan , a course of action, and a high degree of expertise, and engineering, along with technologies. Throughout our vastly situated universe, there are thirty-three million Demigod assistants who run universal affairs of every kind the fifth Canto of the Srimad Bhagavatam tells . There are many more Upadevas who are the assistances of the assistances of Maha Visnu and Bramha, the empowered engineer . Everything is happening by the supreme desire of Krishna. This consciousness is Krishna consciousness, says Srila AC Bhavtivedanta Swami Prabhupada. Another point to consider is that there are 400,000 species of “humanoids “within the universe. The universe is functioning within multidimensional levels, utalising gross and ethereal energies and varieties of combinations of them each in different ways. The Vedic cosmological picture has been well written on . Recently, Dr Richard Thompson PhD , also known as Sadaputa das , has written and lectured on this topics.. What we can see and hear others can not , and that works both ways.. The Harvard Prof Lisa Randall and many others know of multidimensional universes and pure mathematics are used in calculations to show this existence. There are unlimited points, unlimited lines , unlimited planes, and unlimited solids , all corresponding and interactive with each other . Such is a tiny fragment of the power of Divinity who has manifested billions of such universes .. http://www.thevedicspectator.com
Many aspects of the Vedas can be corroborated scientifically and veiwed plainly as part of observed objective sciences . Explanations are within the Vedas of many kinds of unexplained phenomena , at least in terms of our current scientific community and what they can currently understand. Knowledge that the world of scientific materialism and Darwinian hypothesis have no explanations for or even comprehend , the obvious is sometimes stubbornly ignored by those attached to conditioned thinking , this stems from pride . The simple explanations of the origins of the information in the DNA codes and the highly organised engineering taking place along with informational exchanges whilst every single species of life is built from its beginnings needs careful consideration. The Vedas indicates a consciousness particle injected into a womb , and following is a higher complex process when two of the two parents’ DNA mix to form a gross body and three different suble minds are brought together. Of course, molecules don’t move towards life, and the information contained within the codes logically imply creative energies . Information does not spring from nowhere, the information and its sources and multifarious energies are spoken of in the Vedas .
Also..
Out-of-body experiences (OBEs) are recognized in scientific literature as a relatively common, albeit not fully understood, phenomenon that affects an estimated 10% to 20% of the population at least once in their lifetime. While they are often described in spiritual terms, researchers generally define them as complex dissociative or perceptual experiences rather than a physical departure from the body.
The Vedas have the full explanation in the third Canto of the Srimad Bhagavatam , and in other parts of the Vedas, one can make a study to understand mind , body and consciousness and how they interact with the help of authorities.
When we dream at night, we are speaking , hearing, and acting sensually, but we have forgotten of the other body lying in bed or our daytime relationships .This ethereal energies that entraps the minds energies and creates forms of both subtle and gross matter are given explanations with the Vedas . The causes of the transmigration of the consciousness into another body are the minds desires and how a living being uses a mind , along with a set of senses .
Science is seen as an authority, you either accept someone like Richard Dawkins or Lea Cronin, or you can accept Vedic scholars . The same process of acceptance of authority of scholarship is in each culture of the sciences.
But how do you know they know ?…. The Vedic authorities are based on objective sciences, and strong evidence of logic is applied that can be clearly examined and studied .Those authorities from scientific materialism and Darwinian hypothesis appear to all sense and purposes as highly speculative and without logic .
When someone is neglecting their best interests its the responsibility of someone with a better understanding of what could be any of the varieties of circumstances , who have a particular persons best interests at heart to attempt to educate or inform of better ways to see things . Such a well wisher will be concerned and make attempts to stop a person from any further webbs entanglements that lead to entirely unbeneficial and actually harmful results. In the case of a human life, the Vedas gives guidance and warnings . A person within the material universe knowingly or unknowingly has to face the consequences of many universal laws , but these laws are clearly defined and are known by the Vedic intelligentsia . A life of incalculably complex karmic synchronicities is in operation for everyone as a space time continuum connects a past , a present, and a future . Those without the specific tools to hand have no way of understanding it . What are described as good and bad in ordinary material life calculations are in absolute spiritual terms described in one sense as all bad . This is because good karma and bad karma deviate one from the best of destinations , where birth , death , old age and disease are left behind along with the influences of the ethereal modes of nature that force the conditioned souls to act practically against their wishes . The power of maya , the illusory energies , and the subsequent material desires can be overwhelming . It’s Gods illusion, what do you expect , He is the supreme Wizard of illusions. Death is much feared by everyone, and if there is God, people shake their fists in anger at Him . Having everything in their lives taken away by Him, they see as unfair. However, someone who lives a life in harm to themselves and to others causes greater and greater entanglements and pain to themselves and miss out on something far, far greater . Those who do not realise their full absolute potential and who fail to understand the sciences of mind , matter, and consciousness need a reset , a reset is mercy . Part of the reset and a rectification processes which assists in a recovery of good consciousness , often means a spell within the mindset of the animal kingdoms where previous synchronicities can be played out in relative safety avoiding harm to others ..The reset of death and new life should always be seen in positive ways . God is all good and eternally has the interests of every being deep within His own heart . With that purpose, He constantly accompanies every being within their hearts . Much greater destinations are awaiting where a natural bliss and happiness accompanied by pure love are destined for all being . God or Krishna lives in realms of spiritual existence where birth , death , old age, and disease are unheard of , miseries of body , minds, and miseries inflicted by other conditioned beings are fully absent . Those that are inflicted by the material energies and laws of physics need education. Child like purity and simplicity are the quality of the soul . Living eternally for the moment ,within increasing ever new enthusiasm and bliss is inherently stationed within the heart. This experience in the company of Divinity and His associates are had to the full , and they are unlimitedly and spiritually astounding , soul to soul connections . This is our right and our destination. Death comes to take us a little closer in one way or another .
Thus Krishna says …
janma karma ca me divyam evaṁ yo vetti tattvataḥ tyaktvā dehaṁ punar janma naiti mām eti so ’rjuna
Translation
One who knows the transcendental nature of My appearance and activities does not, upon leaving the body, take his birth again in this material world, but attains My eternal abode, O Arjuna.
When one became two and then one again , the mysterious trancendental circumstances of Radha Krishna and Their ever expanding love and attraction for each other, the very origins of loving affairs of which a temporary miniscule portion can be reflected in this life for a few short years . Sri Caitanya Mahāprabhu comes to demonstrate and glorify the power , beauty and purity of the Love of Srimati Radharani and Radharani reveals the original trancendental cupid who dances like a billion cupids within the groves of the trysting ground of Vraj, the trancendental abode of Vraja Raja Krishna. Everything is explained by the Gaudia Vaisnava acaryas in their litratures beginning with Srila Rupa Goswami and Srila Ragganatha das Goswami , who were personally taught by Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu.
Translation The loving affairs of Śrī Rādhā and Kṛṣṇa are transcendental manifestations of the Lord’s internal pleasure-giving potency. Although Rādhā and Kṛṣṇa are one in Their identity, previously They separated Themselves. Now these two transcendental identities have again united, in the form of Śrī Kṛṣṇa Caitanya. I bow down to Him, who has manifested Himself with the sentiment and complexion of Śrīmatī Rādhārāṇī although He is Kṛṣṇa Himself..
The books of Srila AC Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada have brought all these trancendental treasures all over the world . http://www.thevedicspectator.com
Atheism is so senseless & odious to mankind that it never had many professors. Can it be by accident that all birds beasts & men have their right side & left side alike shaped (except in their bowels) & just two eyes & no more on either side the face & just two ears on either side the head & a nose with two holes & no more between the eyes & one mouth under the nose & either two fore leggs or two wings or two arms on the sholders & two leggs on the hipps one on either side & no more? Whence arises this uniformity in all their outward shapes but from the counsel & contrivance of an Author? Whence is it that the eyes of all sorts of living creatures are transparent to the very bottom & the only transparent members in the body, having on the outside an hard transparent skin, & within transparent juyces with a crystalline Lens in the middle & a pupil before the Lens all of them so truly shaped & fitted for vision, that no Artist can mend them? Did blind chance know that there was light & what was its refraction & fit the eys of all creatures after the most curious manner to make use of it? These & such like considerations always have & ever will prevail with man kind to believe that there is a being who made all things & has all things in his power & who is therfore to be feared. — as mentioned in “A short Schem of the true Religion”
Isaac Newton.
The Vedic writing confirms of course all that the great scholar presents , and anyone with any sense will recognise the difference between objective and subjective sciences. A scientific theory is a well-substantiated explanation of some aspect of the natural world that has been repeatedly confirmed through observation and experiment. It’s never guessing but based on real events in the real world. The problems with the modern educational system including its teaching of scientific materialism and Darwinian hypothesis is its taught to young students as fact based science . Fom infant school, the children are shown pictures of apes turning into men , caused they say by chance mutational process , although there is no explanation of mutational math . When groups of school children are marched into the London science of history museum, the first thing they see and experience is an overload of subjective sciences, a massive display of the Darwinian hypothesis , presented as pure fact based science.
Slaughter houses of education that attempt to present speculations as absolute truth . Times are changing the Darwinian has had his day , real scientific studies of matter , mind and consciousness are taking its place , and that will reshape not only the way we think , but what our values and world veiw is and the economies.
The Discovery Institute and the Bhaktivedanta Institute are certainly doing stirling work in that regard. Look them up .
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