Material universes have the greatest purpose, unlike the Darwinian or those that follow scientific materialism the Vedas depicts the multiple purposes of the universe, its purposes can be known by one who knows the consciousness behind all things ,one who knows one thing can know everything.
The ultimate searching of all consciousness is pleasure , no one wants to suffer , even if you try to harm an ant , if will protest.
So pleasure is the name of the game, and how to find it in innumerable ways , throughout numerous universes by innumerable particles of consciousness is what’s going on .
In our experience of life in human form , in childhood, in youth , middle age or old age , there is flickering experience of pleasures, a taste of something and an enthusiasm for something, but it dies back , changes and situations are thrust upon us that we would rather do without.
Contrast this to the descriptions of the state of consciousness in the very highest planes of existence that are described in detail by Srila Rupa Goswami and many other scholars of the Vedas , and the state of matter ,mind and consciousness is looked at very differently as well as our existing at all in time and space .
Ultimately, the science of consciousness, mind, and matter should be of great interest to everyone , it could well be the ultimate solution to any difficulties, certainly that is the message of the Vedas .
A good start is reading Bhagavad Gita, it speaks of five topics, but broadly consciousness, mind matter time, and free will as well as determinism are discussed , it also gives descriptions of upper , middle and lower planetary systems and the ways time and different kinds of physics operate in those systems, along with the types of bodies who reside in such places .
The goal of Bhagavad Gita is to get us to a place where having once gone , one is never to return to another temporary place, and in a body that is permanently in enthusiastic playful mode , surrounded by similar persons and ultimately the Supreme Goddess of fortune along with Divinity Himself Krishna.
Many ancient cultures spoke of the universe being an enclosed unit with lower , middle, and upper planetary systems within a “shell ” , this indicates that the original cosmological knowledge of the Vedas , in former times was widely distributed and worldwide cultures were influenced by it due to the distribution of it . This was done by ancient trade routes as well as wondering mendicants as well as exiled kings forming new kingdoms .
Outside of a universal shell , within which the upper , middle , and lower planetary systems were situated , cultures aligned with Vedic cosmology understood was a place where Divinity and His super subjective planes existed , with all the splendour of its spiritual varigatedness , unaffected by time or any physical laws .
The Greeks and later the Arabic cultures as well as a Vedic culture and other cultures from the South Americas all held this similar understandings , thus cultures were intertwined and evidence for a much earlier concept of a global world can be thought of .
When the Roman empire conquered most of Europe, having taken in previously within their own cultures some aspects of Christianity, blind unscientific religious fanaticism began to develop , some or most of the traditional Vedic ways of understanding our universe , along with a greater scientific approach to consciousness in general came to decline , as unscientific fanatical religious doctrine was forced by use of militant might onto the public . Later , when the Roman empire came to an end , Christians predominanted and scientific thinking outside the bible came to a complete halt . But the old Arabic and Greek texts were still available, and the Mogal empires preserved some of this thinking of our universal structures .which was essentially theological in nature . In India, of course, this Vedic cosmological remained in tact .
The Renaissance period gave a rebirth to science and shunned religious fanatical 7 a rethinking of the universe was formed .Modern geometric systems and euclidean math was the new way of looking at life , so much so , that God was pushed out the picture, and so was dualism , the mind and body as a seperate unit . The mechanistic Darwinian world had begun, scientific materialism, that used math and mechanistic thinking , placed our stars millions of miles away, and a concept of an infinite space, with no God outside of a universal shell was developed and taught in educational systems. If there were a God , some thought, it’s probably an impersonal energy . The idea of a separate mind to matter was written off because the mind could not be measured , and math could not be applied .
Measurements of the distance of planets in a multidimensional space, as spoken about by Lisa Randall the Harvard Prof, may not be so easy to calculate , the laws of physics are said in the Vedas to operate differently in different parts of the universe, so what is far is near ,what is near is far in a multidimensional universe.
The ancient culture and sciences should not be hastily discarded and rubbished , or replaced by scientific materialism , which in itself is dogma , it cannot even account for a mind , but rather believe it to only be simple neurons firing in a mechanistic mathematical brain , these events all supposedly happening by chance in a chance universe . This mechanistic veiw could be said to be ludicrously absurd , and discards the notion of the intelligence and obvious design in just about everything we see , as well it ignores the perfect math in nature , where there is perfect mathematics you can bet your bottom dollar there is a perfect mathematician behind it .
Richard Feynman once famously said you can have a PHD. and still be stupid , and in Vedic and theological terms , one could be academically astute but be very questionable in character, and morality of all kinds .
In Vedic culture we have social mobility in real terms , and the highest perfection in everyone’s life is to be brahman realised ,and actually go even beyond those realisations and reach Paramatma and Bhagavan consciousness, and even in Bhagavan consciousness , those that can enter into the understanding of Dhira Lalita Krishna are most complete.
Sri Caitanya Mahāprabhu has granted access to the secrets of Srimati Radharani playgrounds , and by Her grace is giving the highest ideal to the lowest of persons, thus the world magnanimity is applied to Mahāprabhu, the greatest show of magnanimity that there can be .
By reading the trancendental literature of all the Gaudia vaisnavas and by humbly associating with a service attitude. just about anyone can become knowledgeable and see the material world for what it is and enter into the spiritual world with a well trained yogic mind and a mentally conceived spiritual form
“The constitutional position (svarūpa) of the living entity is to be an eternal servant of Kṛṣṇa.”
“He is the marginal energy (taṭasthā-śakti) of Kṛṣṇa and a manifestation simultaneously one with and different from the Lord (bhedābheda-prakāśa)”, just like a molecular particle of sunshine or a spark of fire
We have passed or are passing through our childhood , our youth , our middle age , or old age . We have been or will be the same “I am ” who is that “I am.” During our brief spell in our lives, we develop political leanings and have strong learnings for and identify with . Which political movement suits us ? left leaning , right leaning, or centre ground ? Actually, persons are forever changing who or what they identify with , the subtle mind accepting and rejecting based around our own selfish false egos. Sometimes, someone is our friend, and sometimes the same person becomes our enemy. Sometimes, someone is very attractive as a partner to us , and a short time later, we reject them and find someone else . The Vedas indicate that the minds business is forever accepting and rejecting the sense objects . This world of ever fluctuating duality has to be understood for what it is . The real observer should learn to advance the consciousness to a state beyond the duality of material life the Vedas teach that process, and Krishna speaks on how to in various ways in His Bhagavad Gita, different strokes for different folks , but the Bhakti or devotion in love is universally taught . When we examine the disturbances that the dualities bring , we begin to realise such states occur because of excess and our own selfish motivations and because of a misidentification of our true self . When this begins to be realised as factual, at that point, we can begin to climb higher in our consciousness understanding . The spiritual plane is a place to contribute real happiness to others without selfish calculations . Ultimately, undertaking an ultimate sacrifice of surrendring ones life to contributing happiness directly to Divinity or Krishna and His associates. Sacrificing everything for the sake of Krishna’s happiness without considering our own feelings is a highly elevated spiritual state . You’ll be pleased to hear such sacrifices never go in vain , as you surrender to God , He reciprocates such a surrender , universally both materially and spiritually . The Vedas encourages us to dive deeper into states of consciousness and explore spiritual reality . A happier and much richer state of mind , beyond the sense of sense of gratification , that even animals can easily obtain . The Vedas encourages us to consider the truth of who or what we are in reality . Whether we are boy , a girl , young , old , black , white , rich, poor, intelligent, or not so ? or are we simply observing, experiencing, and feeling a series of imposed conditions, and we are mistakenly identified with a sureal illusory world. Such conditions that are thrown upon us ? And are we becoming overly affected because of false attachments and selfish unintelligent pursuits.
Let’s see what Sastra say .
nāhaṁ vipro na ca nara-patir nāpi vaiśyo na śūdro nāhaṁ varṇī na ca gṛha-patir no vanastho yatir vā kintu prodyan-nikhila-paramānanda-pūrnāmṛtābdher gopī-bhartuḥ pada-kamalayor dāsa-dāsānudāsaḥ
Translation
“ ‘I am not a brāhmaṇa, I am not a kṣatriya, I am not a vaiśya or a śūdra. Nor am I a brahmacārī, a householder, a vānaprastha or a sannyāsī. I identify Myself only as the servant of the servant of the servant of the lotus feet of Lord Śrī Kṛṣṇa, the maintainer of the gopīs. He is like an ocean of nectar, and He is the cause of universal transcendental bliss. He is always existing with brilliance.’ ”
This verse , with Vedic terms for our different social status and stages of life , offers an insight into the permanent identity of a soul in a specific relationship with Divinity. This may be a little esoteric for many to understand , but the principle is highlighted . We are not the body , not the changing mind , not a deteriating and frustrated intelligence , but something beyond the material calculations that force us into false identities. This super subjective realm of spiritual consciousness is understood by sacrifice . The ultimate sacrifice the sacrifice of ourselves in a pure service attitude towards Divinity . In a cooperative , loving spirit , this should be carried out with others who have similar goals.
The Vedas delineate many other permanent relationships with Divinity that have nothing to do with the atoms ,elements, or compounds or an ethereal ever-changing mind and intelligence that provides us our tailored and sureal illusory world.
The original consciousness that we should identify with belongs in a permanent spiritual land, which is ever new by nature and an ever enthusiastic pure love dominates our consciousness state . To exchange love with Radha Krishna is the topmost goal that the Vedas speaks of ……..and as the old musical song goes
Somewhere over the rainbow
Way up high
There’s a land that I heard of
Once in a lullaby…..
Maybe your fairy tale child hood imaginings have something much more to them .
So far, an accurate and objective account has not been fully written or recorded in terms of the mistakes that were made during the 80s in those difficult early days of ISKCON, as Prabhupāda finished his services externally, having established ISKCON.
The truths of Guru Tattva or the origins of the soul has been recorded by the Goswamis and our acaryas, we should never have strayed independently from traditions of Gaudia Vaisnavism its a serious mistake and should be accounted for and corrected.
The founder acarya of ISKCON His Divine Grace AC Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada had intended for Gaudia Vaisnava to continue in its historic traditions , it does not take much research to understand what they are.
Every historical account ever written by our Gaudia acaryas that are contained in the Sruti should not differ from ISKCON .
The zonal acarya system set up was incorrect, as was the over emphasise on Diksa Gurus , and a reluctance of teaching the importance of Siksa Gurus , through the current and previous Acaryas , as clearly described by Srila Bhaktivinod Thakur.
Unfortunately, we are left with a silent history or, at most vague hints, at what might have happened or who made decisions. They were difficult days, the men and ladies were young , inexperienced , but Prabhupada instructed them to seek help with Tattva from Srila Sridhar Swami , they did not want to hear his advice , which was to follow traditions of Diksa and Siksa .
Because of not following the traditions of Guru tattva , speculations were abound , early leaders forced Grhastas to be in a Sannyasa ashram to keep the management body strong , Guru tattva and management of the society were linked hand in hand , that was not Prabhupada’s desire or specific orders at that time , but rather is was a series of cobbled together ideas , and nothing to do with Gaudia Vaisnava historic traditions.
The GBC , at that time became belligerent and head strong , Srila Sridhar Swami and later HH Narayana Maharaja were isolated , and ISKCON devotees found themselves locked into a system of management and spiritual guidance that was wrong .
Even though bad mistakes were made , that jeopardised the faith of spiritual lives of many , ISKCON stayed together as a society and is still functioning worldwide in wonderful ways . Its my belief that this is due to many reasons, including and primarily because Prabhupada wanted it to , and also its the desire of Srila Bhaktivinod Thakur and Srila Bhaktisiddanta Sarasvati Goswami Maharaja, its also my belief that over the many years the so called enemies of ISKCON, Srila Sridhar Swami and Srila Narayana Maharaja, have greatly helped ISKSON, to stabalise and to advance Prabhupada’s movement. Indeed, they were great friends of Prabhupada.
I would also like to see official acknowledgements of these events , to record the accurate histories and to make sure misunderstandings are cleared up and Tattva is reestablished in every way Currently there is still an over emphasise on the position of Diksa , and also a misunderstanding , namely, the need of devotees to study our acaryas literatures in our historic param para , also still the misunderstanding of our origins , which is with Krishna from His expansion as Balarama , needs to be taught , Ultimately we came from a spirtual world, because Balarama is in the Spiritual world , He is offering us service there , those that don’t not take the offer , experience the Mahavishnu aspect of Balarama, through the three Visnu forms overseeing the independent jivas within the material worlds .
There are traditional systems of purification in Vedic culture, and these are progressed and changed according to time place and circumstances , currently in the age of Kali , an age of quarrel and hypocrisy , the Goswamis of Sri Caitanya Mahāprabhu have introduced a system of purification for men of the lowest qualities.
Such men can be made into Brahminical priests who can even conduct fire sacrifices .
The process of first initiation into the chanting of the Holy names of Krishna is followed after a time period by Gayatri mantra , which enables one to perform priestly services.
The Gayatri mantra ,is series of sacred chants that enable the person to realise that the real seer is the consciousness not the eye , of the fleshy body ,and the real experience of being is not because of a mind and intelligence, but because of the soul within and trapped in thd bodh , the Gayatri mantra supposedly is directed at the sun , but the sun is synonymous with the light of consciousness.
Thus, the consciousness goes through a series of steps so that proper vision of the existence of Divinity is seen and felt everywhere and in all beings .
Did the British Government ever consider , or make a plan for the assassination of Gerry Adams or even consider completely anhialating the IRA or Sinn Fein, or did they ever consider carpet bombing Belfast, where practically most people supported the idea of Ireland without British influences.
Of course, the British would have never considered using such barbarity.
Yet currently, the Western world governments , who spout freedom and democracy, seem fine with the Murderous tactics of Israel , its abhorrent that the world looks on , as thousands of women and children are slaughtered, a Vedic culture would never consider such unnecessary violence and murder as legitimate, what to speak of supporting it and supplying weapons to assist in the atrocities.
Shame on so-called peace loving Liberal democracies, the hypocrisy is clear to see .
Thus, aggressive militant democracy is being carried out all over the world, and the pen is more powerful than the sword. Ultimately, truth will out .
One simple example, people can not get enough food to eat in many parts of the world , even in wealthy countries. Nor do the majority have sufficient shelter or stability in their lives . Homelessness or home insecurity is increasing , the mentally distressed are increasingly being ignored, they are left untreated, and consequently, addiction is a familiar sight , along with addiction to many other things, including internet porn , which our leaders allow access to , even children. The vast majority of the world struggle financially, and their lives have become artificial and contrived , as they turn away from nature and head for excess and struggle. The only relief for some are mobile phone issuing messages and invitations to a sensual life . All kinds of prospective pleasure is advertised , “a will of the whisp ” pie in the sky ” but that in reality brings peoples consciousness to further entanglements and complications and further anxiety.
Simple living high thinking with a blissful inner self is the Vedic way , directed by the intelligensia , unthinking political classes need classes , they must hear from not business leaders , but the intelligentsia who understand scientifically dualism and the self-evident truth of consciousness and its potential and how its harmed .
People’s lives today are not lived in harmony with nature but rather nature and its creatures are being destroyed . Lives are also highly pressured , and the educational systems are biased , tainted towards the Darwinian hypothesis ,which suits the consumer society model. The Darwinians’ message is one life and oblivion. One life and die , scientific materialism teachings are we are apes and animals , just sophisticated ones . There are also wars and conflicts in many parts of the world. Agitators from wealthy nations bring political instabilities, and then political puppets are planted so a counties resource can be exploited . A serious threat of a major world conflict can develop at any time with globalisation as exploitation takes place by demons dressed as well wishers.
The Vedas say buisness persons should never have influences on the management of society, their only thoughts are profit at any cost . They have no idea of the needs of people’s lives. They do not have an understanding of how society knits together, and they are clueless scientifically and philosophically and theologically .
So , society should wake up and understand only the genuine intelligentsia who have first class qualities in all respects should guide societies . In Vedic Culture, the administrative classes and business classes were always under their supervision . The modern democracies , have been infiltrated , and fake narratives are everywhere with the help of social media .
Thus democracy is demon crazy , and its inevitably spiralling out of control.
The Vedas and the Mahabharata explain why democracy is a system of fools voting in fools . Unless you know how a leader should lead and what it means to lead , and where to lead , in ways that are beneficial for all beings , you shouldn’t vote .
In the Vedas, it is stated there are four ages that constantly turn in cyclic movement , whilst the 311 trillion years of Bramha’s life is being lived out , its interesting to note so far , approximately half has of his life has passed.
Parts of the universe partially close down, during the Bramha’s rest periods, and its calculated every approximately 4.5 billion years pass by , where the lower and parts of the middle planetary systems are rested before being “rebooted.”
Treta, Satya ,Dvarpa, and Kali are the names of the time periods that operate in cyclic cycles.
Satya yuga lasts approx 1.8 million years
Treta yuga lasts approx 1.3 million years
Dvarpa yuga lasts approx 900,000 years
Kali yuga lasts approx 432.000 years .
Each particular age has specific qualities of consciousness, this current age of Kali, is symptomised , as the Vedas have predicted by quarrel and hypocrisy, and the degradation of consciousness towards animal type consciousness, the only real interests of the vast majority of humanity is eating ,sleeping sex and snatching and defending territories , the majority of people are Darwinians who think and act like sophisticated animals, thinking….one life , death ,finished .
One of the main tools of Kali perhaps , is current social media, where just about anything goes , practically no legislation is present, with many unforeseen future consequences for a younger generation , although governments make noises of concerns, but leave it at that .
Theological sciences and good morals are falling by the wayside, and instead, scientific materialism becomes the ” religion ” of faith , preached in universities and schools worldwide. Darker elements and dubious persons both within governments and in a myriad of other prominent and influential places , inflict disorder and uncertainty in people’s lives , creating havoc and poverty worldwide.
A glimmer of hope, though. The Vedas predict a golden age in Kali. A short burst of the most auspicious happenings , and that age is in its beginnings , and it began, at the time of the appearance of Caitanya Mahāprabhu, so desperate times but , as well , a gradual building of knowledge and awareness, giving people the ability to discriminate between truth and lies .
Is it difficult using logic and reasoning to consider that higher , lower , and middle planetary systems could exist with full ranges of different types of consciousness experiencing countless bodies , some gross , some less so , designed and tailor made to satisfy , after all , take a look at our planet , everywhere you will living conscious beings living lives .
According to the Vedas , consciousness of both our past , present, and future are all inextricably linked , as Einstein might say, ” Space time continuum.” Also, everything has an origin , and so does individuality and form and free will.
The Vedas speak of the form of Divinity, Krishna, along with all of all His associates. Personalities, along with forms that are forever exchanging intimately all kinds of artistries and pleasantries along with humours , in the spontaneous beauties of pure consciousness .
Such description touch on a mere fraction of the opulence of the super subjective realm , way above the heavenly delights .
Whatever we see in this world has origins in the absolute, the cause of all causes , who is the ever increasing catalysis of self perpetual bliss .
Looking carefully at mankind , and every species , we see scales of opulence .Why so ? The Vedas indicate that every consciousness can access esoteric beauty far beyond its comprehension , Divinity sends His representative to show the full potential of consciousness. While in the human form of life , such esoteric truths are accessible.
When we turn to the Vedas , the real potential of our futures are drawn up , but the material energies and our attraction for them can get in the way , both knowledge and detachment come together as a package one must aquire.
Unless one understands the Vedas and its messages, one simply wastes one’s life as a temporary sophisticated animal.
