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Vedic ontology and epistemology .

We will give the Vedic understandings of the two .

” Ontology and epistemology are both branches of philosophy that study different aspects of reality:

OntologyThe study of being, or the nature of existence and what is real. Ontology is concerned with what exists, and what is true or real. It covers a wide range of entities, including everyday objects, living beings, and ideas.
EpistemologyThe study of knowledge, or how we can know things. Epistemology is concerned with how we can know about the existence of things and how we can separate true ideas from false ideas. It also studies theories of knowledge, such as how knowledge is derived and how reliable it is. “

The Vedic perspective…..

The Vedas will indicate that if we want to know Divinity and undergo the epistemological proccesses, first thing is to become pure in consciousness , only the pure can understand something of the Supreme pure . The original Vedas have been summarised into short codes and aphorisms , the Srimad Bhagavatam is the natural commentary of these codes , called the Vedanta-sutra.
Within the Srimad Bhagavatam, Jiva Goswami says are all the epistemological systems of the Sruti , Smriti , Puranas, and Tantras , so everything complete .This is so because the Vedas itself are very difficult to understand in a comprehensive way , Srila Jiva Goswami says in his Tattva Sandarbha.

ataḥ śrī-kṛṣṇa-nāmādi
na bhaved grāhyam indriyaiḥ
sevonmukhe hi jihvādau
svayam eva sphuraty adaḥ

Translation
“ ‘Therefore material senses cannot appreciate Kṛṣṇa’s holy name, form, qualities and pastimes. When a conditioned soul is awakened to Kṛṣṇa consciousness and renders service by using his tongue to chant the Lord’s holy name and taste the remnants of the Lord’s food, the tongue is purified, and one gradually comes to understand who Kṛṣṇa really is .

Regarding ontological considerations.

Athato brahma jijnasa is a phrase from
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Regarding ontological considerations.

Athato brahma jijnasa is a phrase from the Vedanta-sutra that means “Now is the time to inquire about the Absolute Trut

jīvera ‘svarūpa’ haya — kṛṣṇera ‘nitya-dāsa’
kṛṣṇera ‘taṭasthā-śakti’

bhedābheda-prakāśa

Translation
“It is the living entity’s constitutional position to be an eternal servant of Kṛṣṇa because he is the marginal energy of Kṛṣṇa and a manifestation simultaneously one with and different from the Lord, like a molecular particle of sunshine or fire. Kṛṣṇa has three varieties of energy.

The ultimate understanding of who we are is given by Sri Caitanya Mahāprabhu in His saying we are inconceivably and simultaneous one and different from God .

This understanding separates Sankacarya and his oneness philosophy from Madhva Acarya, Ramanuja Acarya , Srila Visnu Swami , and Nimbarka Acarya , who respectively taught , purified monism , ( a connection with Divinity) specific monism , ( as a servant of Divinity in varying ways ) pure monism ( indicating a oneness in love ) and one and difference.

Caitanya Mahāprabhu added the inconceivable and simultaneous oneness and difference in His revealing the pranaya , oneness in love , particularly of the Manjaris , technically called Tad tad bhava icha atmika .

Thus, the Vedas lack nothing in the matter of epistemology or ontology and their conclusion

Srila Prabhupada..

“The Bhagavad-gītā is spoken by the Lord so that human society can be perfectly organized from all angles of vision — politically, socially, economically, philosophically and religiously. From any point of view, human society can be reformed by the Kṛṣṇa consciousness movement; therefore one who spreads this philosophy of Kṛṣṇa consciousness for the benefit of all conditioned souls in the universe is perfect in pure devotional service.”

As is indicated here Krishna consciousness can be practically applied it is both an external and internal process, in Sri Caitanya Mahāprabhu conversations with Ramananda Raya He makes it clear where Krishna consciousness begins and where it ends , ie .in Bhava and Prema .
Srila Rupa Goswami and Ragganatha das Goswami explain and give further indication as to the process starting from chanting , then smaranam ,Dharana , Dhyana ,Dhruvanusmriti ,Bhava Prema .
Means , slight seeking. Holding Radha Krishna forms , specific lila , uninterrupted recollection, pure contemplation .
So ultimately, one should seek or take instructions either by Diksa or Siksa or when one has had proper association , then by the Sastra sanga of our acaryas.
Thus, Krishna consciousness is not a personality cult , but it means to understand the process and seek those that know the full science and who are advanced in it , free from any tinges of Karma or jnana ..
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Re women Diksa Gurus .

I think we should be sensitive to cultures and traditions…

In India Srila Prabhupada had a different approach to ladies being on the alter than in the west .

Thus Diksa Gurus in India, probably not , Diksa Gurus in the west , maybe ..
Bearing in mind , ISKCON have got ” all hung up ” on Diksa .

CC .Diksa Siksa no difference.

But also can be difference.

Ladies in ISKCON are already acting as Siksa Gurus, Krishna guides one to where you need to be ..

If one requires instruction from Sri Guru, who comes in many ways , Krishna makes such arrangements…

Srila Haridas Thakur and Rupa Goswami were sensitive to the externals  that society imposes .

Srila Prabhupada was and is both Diksa and Siksa .. some Gurus are some not necessarily, depending on spiritual needs of their disciple,
Thus the emphasis in Gaudia Vaisnavism is Sadhu sanga and Sastra sanga by Sadhu sanga one’s qualifies oneself for Sastra sanga….

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Democracy is failing us .

One simple example,  people can not get enough food to eat in many parts of the world and even in wealthy countries. Nor do the majority have sufficient shelter or stability in their lives , homelessness or home insecurity is common place and the mentally distressed are increasing and left untreated , drug addiction is a familiar sight along with addiction to many other things . The vast majority struggle financially, and their lives are artificial and contrived. The only relief is a mobile phone issuing messages and invitations to a  sensual life , where all kinds of prostitution take place  among the other types of promises of happiness , but that in reality bring  peoples consciousness to further entanglements and complications.

People’s lives today are not lived in harmony with nature but rather nature and its creatures are being destroyed  . Lives are also highly pressured , and the educational systems are biased and tainted towards the Darwinian hypothesis ,which suits the consumer society model. The Darwinians’ message is one life and oblivion. One life and die , scientific materialism is a life of apes and animals. There are also wars and conflicts in many  parts of  the world. Agitators from wealthy nations bring political instabilities, and  political puppets are planted, so a counties resource can be exploited . A serious threat of a major world conflict can develop at any time with globalisation and exploitation the message of the  demons dressed well wishers.

The Vedas say buisness persons should never have any charge of society,  their only thoughts are profit at any cost , they have no idea of the need of people’s lives. They do not have an understanding of how society knits together,  and they are clueless scientifically and philosophically and theologically.

So society should wake up and understand only the intelligentsia who have first class qualities in all respects , should guide societies . In Vedic Culture,  the administrative classes and business classes were always under their supervision . The modern democracies , have been infiltrated  with fake narratives with the help of social media only the globalist can afford to be representatives of democracy .

Thus democracy is demon crazy , and its inevitably spiralling out of control.

The  Vedas , and the Mahabharata  explains why democracy is a system of fools voting in fools,  because unless you know how  a leader should lead and what it means to lead in ways  for the benefit of all beings , you shouldn’t vote .

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The Israeli government gave the example that tens of thousands of civilians were killed in the second world war to fight the evil of the Nazism . Nazism is the far right totalitarianism system that outlaws or disregards the rights and political values or culture and practices of others .
Do not the People of Palestine deserve recognition , they have a long history in those lands . However, both sides need to value each others cultures and discard the far right ideologies , the killings , and the suppression caused by ignorance and intolerance. History tells us over and over again that suppressed people forced into poverty or who are religiously persecuted will fight back ….

Netenyaho blames , just about everyone for stoking up antisemitism…
He claims they are on the wrong side of truth and justice, and its he who has truth on his side..
He has to define why he holds the whole of Gazza responsible , including women and children for 7th October, since the last election was held in 2008 .
Netenyaho extremist policy is no doubt the most harmful to himself and the Israeli people that he claims to represent. Even previous Israeli prime ministers say publicly the harm he is doing to Israil .

During the times before Hitler came to power, more and more rallies were held , magazines printed, and newspaper articles were written about the need to appoint Hitler as Chancellor.
There was no social media , but frustrated people who found themselves in poverty ,out of work, and in need , due to many reasons , including a bad settlement after the first world war . The   indoctrination of hate began they began to blame a whole race of people for their plight . Hatred for other fellow human beings , of a certain creed or religion turned people into animals and ruthless killers .
In todays world the great geopolitical scholar John Mearsheimer is shocked by what’s going on in Israel, Ukraine,  and Gazza, , hatred of Palestinians hatred of Russians,  so much hatred is being generated and stoked up by bad people who have no sense of humanity . Those hate peddlers  have decended into animal consciousness . Unfortunately, they are taking vast amounts of people with them ,  I refer to  many so-called leaders who also  continue to do nothing to stop the killing . John Mearsheimer can not believe what’s happening in 2025 . He thought he would never see such things , particularly in Gazza ..an  open starvation of children, women whilst world leaders look on .Worst still, they supply weapons to Israel
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Liberalism , along with an unrestricted sensual expression, verses traditional cultures based on theological sciences and philosophies connected to an individuals consciousness development.
Although they don’t have to be , these two paths and lifestyles are often pitched against each other .
The Vedas have a way to bring the two together based on understanding social sciences and how the individuals consciousness can evolve according to the circumstances that a particular person finds itself in , as opposed to devolving and degrading the natural happiness that all beings should be inherently experiencing.
The correct understanding of the Vedic social systems are given in the Vedas, and the Vedic intelligensia, who are the Brahminical persons along with the scholarly Vipras, are able to correctly represent it

In todays confusion and uncertainty, where leaders are chosen by people who have little idea what leadership of society should bring, there is frustration. The stability everyone seeks is inherent situation in the hearts of qualified leaders. Who are they ? The Vedas tell us of their qualities.
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When Lord Bramha came to Vrndavana and saw Lord Krishna playing with His cowherd friends , he could not understand why it was the supreme personality of Godhead who is full of majesty ,unlimited opulence and power, who created the material and spiritual universes could possibly be doing sitting down having a picnic and exchanging laughter and playfulness with these boys .
Thus, the mystery of Krishna consciousness is demonstrated by one who understands why Krishna acts in this and other ways in Vraja, understands what Krishna consciousness really is , as taught by Sri Caitanya Mahāprabhu.

The most intelligent of persons are only ever interested in permanency, everything else is discarded ..
The symptoms of permanency is given in the Vedas as sat cit anananda.
Beyond atoms , elements and compounds and beyond the fleeting and deteriating subtle mind and intellect is a pure conscious state, an atmosphere full of varigatedness with full artistic quality . This being the origins of all reflections , termed in the Vedas as sat cit ananda , i.e. ,the permanency . Eternal knowledge of the constitution of the soul and its bliss in exchanging consciousness experiences in individual spiritual forms accompanied by the origins of all form
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The material world is a place of lust , anger , greed, and envy with  conflicts leading to ruthless aggressions , the humans act like animals if not directed by a real human with human qualities. So, ultimately, this world has very little Godliness. Most displays of Godliness or religion are also tinged with the pursued attachments , God becomes the order supplier.  Pure exhibitions of spirituality are without any expectations for anything , pure love and pure sacrifice means pure service to God .
Currently, our leaders are driving humanity and pushing for further and further conflicts . They are totally clueless in regard to the true worth of humanity and its  intended purposes . The USA has  given up on the EU and UK  in the fight against the Russians .
Anyhow, the material world has a long history of these types of aggressive militant activities.
Srila Ragganatha das Goswami in his Manah Siksa advices that the spiritual person renounce these political or geopolitical types of concerns and concentrate solely in understanding and developing our spiritual form and relationship with Divinity and His various associates and family.  By one’s practise of serious meditation and deep remembrances , the fullness of absolute beauty and the highest of  spiritual culture along within an artistry of ever new loving relationships will be experienced
This is also the underlying advice of all of our  Vedic Gaudia Vaisnava acaryas .AC Bhaktivedanta Swami Srila Prabhupada would say , “First, save yourself..
But also try giving some time to assisting others benefit from the Vedas in some way . We can learn to become , on one level, oblivious to the activities of the foolishness of the ungodly and their uneducated leaders , but on another level, we must point it out for everyone’s benefit.

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Real science improvements

Today’s contemporary society claims it wants to live life with increasing improvements based on newer and newer scientific findings . The scientific community claim to know so many things and make constant references to the improvents it brings to everyone with promises of more to come .The sciences of materialism , known as scientific materialism , based on subjective speculations that consciousness is only a chance outcome of combining particals of matter originating from an atomic realm. Although the origins of how the big bang banged remains, their mystery , however it not a mystery to the Vedas.
Blind acceptance of any messages by wishful speculative thinkers and accepted as objective fact based  science, which remains unquestioned by unthinking persons , and 80% of the worlds population are Darwinian convinced ,and such persons who have been indoctrinated since childhood have been  sold a world view that  claims  itself as  superior widom . This state of affairs scientifically needs urgent rectification .
Albert Einstein, Richard Feynman , Niels Bohr , Schrödinger as well as many great philosophers , scientific thinkers, and religionists , saw that ultimately, its consciousness that is key to understanding life . Harmony with nature can be achieved as well as between all beings , based on knowledge of consciousness. That is the real and most important scientific study , its sadly neglected by 95% of those working in scientific research. Yet consciousness is the key to good healthy living and harmonized politics.
Hildegard Von Bingin, the brilliantly practised Nun who lived many centuries ago has left us all the wisdom of her thinking in the form of  her writing, art, and music , such writing also establishing  harmony of nature society and consciousness. It was Einstein who said ,
Religion without science is blind and science without religion is lame . The Vedas establish scientific studies of consciousness and social sciences and bring harmonised and balanced life , based on the fact that any discord is , harmonized in the absolute truth , and never in speculations and dishonesty.
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Everything and everyone is a relative somebody.

The founder of the International Society for Krishna consciousness , once spent some time gazing at ants , he used to say that if you  try to kill an ant, it will protest .

For someone in elevated God consciousness , he or she will feel  deeply for every living being in profound ways and relate with every life as being an individual living , feeling being . Thus, Brahman and Paramatma consciousness is exhibited , and the vision of seeing every being as part and parcel of God is within the hearts and minds of the pure and in his or her expressions.

These truths and the scientific reformation of consciousness is contained with the Vedas ,although it sadly lacking in today’s societies which are predominantly driven by the scientific materialism world veiws , the origins of all societies ills . Such science of self realisation and the true relevance of every living being is  spoken of in  detail in Bhagavad Gita to Arjuna on a battlefield of all places , where, for one reason or another, killing took place .

We should never think in arrogance or  in proud  ways someone because of their social stsnding ,or even the tiniest creatures  are  relative nobodies . That insensitivity,  arrogance,  and ignorance show complete misunderstanding of real science or real religion . Spiritual consciousness , and the beginning of understanding  Divinity,  who is Rasaraja , the Supreme enjoyer who delights in reciprocating with all beings , begins in earnest when we see the equality of all beings and treat them as such .Within everyone’s heart , beyond material conditioning lies  dormant love , deep attraction and appreciation for Divinity and all  His associates , but when one possesses  a material body and mind, this knowledge is forgotten. Establishing purity of consciousness means the ability to feel and understand the world around us properly and then  enter and  experience  an increasing relationship with appreciation  based on knowledge. Varieties of personalities   naturally exist in a spiritual realm , and the great secret of life is to explore their consciousness and qualities and share in their blissful attraction to each other that is centered around each of their particular attractions  to Krishna .

We can not stand before Krishna alone , AC Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada explained that  we would burn up ,  we must stand behind His main  associates,  they are always kind and have room for everyone in their hearts .

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