People want freedoms in religion, politics, and sciences.
That is a natural instinct, the individual is an individual and ever more shall be so ..
Civil society and the universal principles are to grant freedom but with freedom automatically come justice.
One cannot encroach upon another’s freedoms or exploit another for his own underhanded and wicked gains , gains that are dressed up as freedoms.
It takes the intelligentsia to understand freedoms and balance out how to administer it. If we have some crooks stealing from everyone and then sitting down together and having the freedom to share out the stolen ” booty ” should they be given the freedom to do so ?
Freedom correctly used it highly beneficial and suppression highly damaging .
Accordingly , the Vedas has a system where everyone has freedoms, and along with it responsibility . Those responsibilities are imposed on civilians to different degrees. It’s calculated according to the phycological make up of a person that has been inacted by karmic synchronicities over many many life journeys. Because a person’s circumstances and consciousness are a continuous journey of knowledge and improvement . The more improved one is the more freedoms from the conditioning of the material energy they will feel , the freedom to be effectionate and equal minded towards all living beings is the great Vedic goal and it can be experienced, along with a humbled deep respect and most importantly a development of understanding the universe and its originator .
What I mean to say is that I am describing the condition of the ultimate intelligentsia and they like to and should predominantly set a path of freedoms for all by applications of truth and justice, which the crooked judge as an encroachment of freedom and that the honest see as essential and pure .
The Srimad Bhagavatam is the science of freedom.
Pure love is called pranaya , where the love is at one with others , like green parrots flying into and playing together in a green tree . Cooperative bliss
Srila Rupa Goswami gives the example of a man watching a play , the gentleman is so absorbed in the play that when the main hero dies , he also dies .
Yoga means a shift in identity .
Perhaps you may experience yourself being carried away by a beautiful piece of music on occasions , music is also a type of yoga .
One critically disabled person was asked how she coped with what appeared to be a limited life , she answered that she had the freedoms of her inner life , and in her inner self takes herself to innumerable places and carries out innumerable activities. It’s a fact our life is only partially led with a body and immediate senses , the mind and intelligence are providing what some will argue as the essence, and the spiritual meditation takes that concept incalculably further .
Our immediate circumstances are very fast flowing , fleeting, and limiting experiences within a set time influenced by the particular conditioning of our current body that we find ourselves in . Such a body is always changing . Everyone’s body and circumstances differ because of differences of individual karmic synchronicities . Nevertheless, no one should ever feel themselves limited in any way .
The instant communication spoken of in quantum physics, according to the Vedas, can be taken further . It takes the well practised yogi to understand spiritual forms , revealed to them by a decending process. Spiritual form within a spiritually pure mind travels instantly to its destination at the speed of the mind , incalculably greater than the speed of light. An instant transportation takes place , and the devoted and well practised yogis live simultaneously in fullness both within the material worlds and the higher realms of spiritual dimensions with Divinity and His associates . These yogic aspects are described in the Vedas , as well as the Bhagavad Gita , krishna speaks of who is the best of the Yogis .
The Darwinian mechanic scientific materialism follower is dismissed in the Bhagavad Gita, wherein Krishna speaks of those in the lower speculative modes who consider themselves matter having faith in only their own speculations , and thus remain in repeated births and deaths within the spectrum of species on this planet or others .
Its not that they were that far apart in real terms.
“Religion without science is blind and science without religion is lame.” Says Einstein .
The key to understanding Einstein’s statement is to consider dualism, Einstein was not an ardent follower of scientific materialism per se .
Bohr accepted both classical and quantum physics. As does the Vedas , the world for atom is within the Vedas..
But the vedas speaks of the ethereal subtle energies, akin to the mind and intelligence that are the causes of atoms , along with the electromagnetic energies that are devolved from the Bramajyoti , a high grade light originated from the spiritual realms . The multidimensional material and spiritual planes are discussed in the Srimad Bhagavatam. The world we live in is real, of course, but temporary. The followers of Sankaracarya consider this world unreal , and in one sense, that’s true but in another not . The consciousness and the universe are linked together by the interests and desires of the individual consciousness under the supervision of Divinity and His unlimited consciousness, and limited consciousness is eternally linked to the unlimited consciousness. When the conscious being understands that he or she is something different than a material body and also different from the universal energies, being freed from scientific materialism and clearly understanding dualism , then the real consciousness journey begins . One should question why the living beings have become subjected to the laws of the universe . By such enquiries, the universal order gives reciprocation to gradually acquire knowledge and detachment from all universal connections, and that is the beginning of liberation . Gradually, by understanding dualism and by searching the inner meaning to life, one is connected to devotional activities . The cause of all causes is understood by purified and detached persons. One can eventually enter a plane where consciousness and the energy surrounding it are of the same nature . Once Edward Teller had tea with Neils Bohr, and he said to Bohr, ” You have changed everything in the way we view the world, and in the future, everyone will see the world much differently..” After a long pause, Bohr said, ” Are you saying this world is not real but like a dream?” http://www.thevedicspectator.com
The desire and subsequent actions of numerous living beings .
This is clearly explained by Srila Jiva Goswami, who is one of the greatest Vedic Proffesors , he explains all in his Bhagavat Sandarbha. Mahavisnu did not want this material world directly but wanted to facilitate those living beings that wanted it , so a responsive universe is both personal and contains impersonal and reactionary systems.
“Solar System’s Galactic Orbit: The Sun, along with all the planets, moons, asteroids, and comets in our solar system, orbits the center of the Milky Way galaxy. Orbital Speed and Time: This orbit takes a very long time, about 225 to 250 million Earth years, which is often referred to as a “galactic year”. The Sun’s speed is about 800,000 km/h (448,000 mph). “
The heliocentric or geocentric understanding of the Vedas is clear . Using the multidimensional universe model, the sun is orbiting ” the greater Earth,” consisting of the regions of the demigods who are the administrators of some of the localised universal affairs of the Bhu Mandala plane .The earthly globe is an aspect of such a ” greater earth ” model where limited sense perceptions are enforced upon the consciousness of all brings , like for instance a bull who is tied to a post who walks in circles and is limited . The Harvard Proffesor Lisa Randal gives a somewhat Vedic take on the limitations of our senses , as well as the multidimensional universe where ” dark energy and Matter ” are at play and where physics and time planes function differently . Expectations of other existences are highly likely, of course, how foolish to think life is limited to one planet .But why do they not communicate, can you properly communicate with your dog , or anybody?
The Bhagavatam gives the example of ants walking around in circles on a potters wheel .There is the ants circle within the circle and movements of the potters wheel and the movements of the Potter. The Bhagavatam calculates the days and nights of the demigods, as well as the earthly planes, the movements of the sun are creating such variety of differing days and nights depending on where one is situated on the greater Bhu Mandala plane.
The various endless possibilities of quantum physics and how they are eventually physically enacted could be thought of as the atomic energies of the bramananda shell like universe , wherein endless possibilities take place , ie, the elements compounds and molecular structures , for each person’s needs in their alloted karmic synchronicities . Everything is sourced and formed from such atomic structures , and the consciousness is inserted into it .
In real terms , the Vedic thinkers understand scientific studies to be the analysing of a universal prison house . All be it a truely astounding one , with sophisticated engineering beyond anyone’s comprehension that is incorporating every scientific discipline known and unknown, much more to come you’ll see. The modern world is developing increasingly , Ai and algorithmic systems that predict and follow your makeup and offer you what it thinks you want. The Vedas say a responsive universe with an automated system like a “Divine Ai or algorithmic process ” tracks our needs and deserves. , practically we ourselves are choosing our next machine like body by our actions and reaction. Our karmic synchronicities are let loose within specific space and with a time period .
The electromagnetic resonance in the brain refers to the natural oscillatory patterns of electrical and magnetic fields produced by neuronal activity. It’s not so difficult to see how these signals can be linked to the future makeup of a body that’s made up of the atomic electro magnetic energy. Electromagnetic energy plays a crucial role in both the structure and function of atoms and neurons, though in different ways.
Beyond the prison house is an open existence with unlimited freedoms. When we use our freedom correctly, we remain free and become even more free .There is no limit to the freedoms of spontaneous love, but it is not truely facilitated within the atoms , elements, and compounds of the material world . The Srimad Bhagavatam tells all. http://www.thevedicspectator.com
The conundrum of Karmic synchronicities Karma. And the Bengali poet Srila AC Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada would quote .
“One who does wrong or suffers wrong is wrong :
One of my favourite quotes of Prabhupada.
Prabhupada himself somewhat addresses the issue in his Bhagavatam purports 1st Canto when King Yudhisthira became distressed after the battle of Kuruksetra , he felt many had died ,so he could be established king . He , in his distress, went to see Bhismadeva, who was lying on a bed of arrows . In that conversation, time was discussed, and its inevitable movements and how the justice systems of Divinity are endlessly playing out , beyond the comprehension of mere mortals . It’s highly significant that Krishna wanted to establish the honest and decent Yudhisthira as king , along with his highly cultured family and followers. Prabhupada says in his purports that although no one is innocent in the material world, still , when the leaders are pure in purpose and who understand governance and compliance that benefits all , people suffer less . Thus, one who does wrong or suffers wrong is wrong. A bad, corrupt, and Demoniac leader will bring hell to everyone except his own friends. The justice systems are to be inacted by just men and women, and the innocent are to be protected.. Further . When Bramha went to see Krishna as Mahavisnu to complain about the corrupt demons and their military might . Krishna did not say , ” Why are you bothering me? It’s karma.” Rather, he came at the request of Bramha to reestablish principles of religion along with proper governance and compliance. http://www.thevedicspectator.com
In this material world, one can find flickering flavours of relationships , of humour, of beauty , of enthusiasms , of appreciations . Flavours of sensual and emotional experiences of every conceivable kind are found within the 8400000 species of life , 400000 of which are human like . Practically unlimited material rasa or mellows of experiences are found within the material energies . Everything is completely overseen and has supervisory bodies attached to proceedings and God , who is directly and indirectly conscious of all affairs . A material and specific body is awarded by higher authorities , and every one of us is enjoying and suffering some sweet fruits some bitter . Everyone will have to admit these temporary experiences are hard fought for and that everything we have and work for is in a declining situation. What a sad state of affairs , as time takes away, against our will the permanency of life .
The origins of permanency are accompanied by not only full flavours but also ever new and increasing flavours . Explicit details are given in the Vedas of experiences beyond atoms, elements, and compounds . Whilst experiencing the material senses along with various temporary flavours , a certain sense of frustration inevitably comes about . A shallow consciousness that explores only the peripherals of life hankers after much deeper cor values and experiences . In such a condition the intelligence is called Buddhi yoga , as it develops intelligence clearly reveals the true value and potential of consciousness outside of the temporary material body , the Bhagavad Gita calls these material activities the field of the body .
It is the arrangements of Krishna that those who come to this world are able to experience reflections of the super subjective reality , but that such reflections of permanency will never substitute for the origins of sensual and emotional experiences where unlimited flavours in the original spiritual form are found . These spiritual feelings and experiences are recorded by Srila Jiva Goswami, Srila Rupa Goswami , Srila Ragganatha das Goswami, and Srila Sanatana Goswami , and other trancendental Proffesors within the Gaudia Vaisnava school.
The Vedic literature indicates that those who are caught up in temporary affairs can not give their attention to permanency. This is a great problem for us. We have to extract ourselves from the temporary addictions and strive for the permanent origins and beauty of our consciousness . No one gets something for nothing.
The mind and senses have taken us on a long, long journey of deceit , we must know it , and we must research these topics . We must understand the pushings of the scientific materialism educator, and those that insist Darwinian hypothesis is fact based science , we must know , they are clueless when it comes to understanding consciousness.
We must know life comes from life , that’s our experience , just as when we see smoke, we know there is fire .
The enclosed universe, infinite space, and the accuracy of cosmic calculations .
Many ancient cultures spoke of the universe being an enclosed unit with lower , middle, and upper planetary systems within a “shell ”, this indicates that the original cosmological knowledge of the Vedas , in former times was widely distributed . Worldwide cultures were influenced by its teaching due to the extensive distribution of this type of knowledge. It was achieved by ancient trade routes as well as wondering mendicants who were wondering Brahminical educators, as well, exiled kings forming new kingdoms along with their following would distribute Vedic wisdom and it became adopted in similar ways .
Outside of a universal shell , within which the upper , middle , and lower planetary systems are situated , significant numbers of cultures aligned with Vedic cosmological calculations , they also demonstrated regions where Divinity and His super subjective realms existed but the laws of material nature didn’t. Those regions were outside the universal shell . Multiple cultures remarkably give similar descriptions of the splendour of spiritual varigatedness. Extensive and more detailed descriptions are written in both the Sruti and Smriti scriptures of the Vedas they bring a fascinating insight into the relationships and personalities who reside there . Loving exchanges with a trancendental personalites are described in the Srimad Bhagavatam, Krishna is described as the supreme personality of Godhead, enthralling and beautiful loving relationships that appear as ever new are given descriptions of .The residents are ever enthusiastic to exchange ever increasing love and emotional pleasures .
The Greeks and later the Arabic cultures including other cultures from the South Americas, all held similar understandings of the cosmological calculations of the Vedas . Thus its quite evident cultures were intertwined, and evidence for a much earlier concept of a global world can be thought of .
When the Roman empire conquered most of Europe, having adopted within their own cultures some aspects of Christianity , blind unscientific religious fanaticism began to develop . Some or most of the traditional Vedic ways that the Greeks had adopted in understanding our universe , along with a greater scientific approach to consciousness, began to decline . This unscientific, fanatical religious doctrine was imposed on the public by the use of militant and political might . Later , when the Roman empire came to an end , Christians solely predominanted and scientific thinking outside of the misinterpreted bible came to a complete halt . Fortunately, the old Arabic and Greek texts were still preserved in some places . Mogal empires who were using mathematics and were taking a less dogmatic approach preserved some of the scientific traditions of the thinking of our universal structures, and it was essentially theological in nature . In India, of course, this Vedic cosmological remained in tact .
The Renaissance period gave a rebirth to science and shunned the early unscientific religious fanatical doctrine. A rethinking of the universal order was formed . Modern geometric systems and euclidean math became the new way of looking at life , so much so , that God was pushed right out the picture, and so was dualism . Scientific materialism was born , meaning the mind and body as a separate unit were discouraged and not taught . The mechanistic Darwinian world had begun, scientific materialism that used math and mechanistic dogma , it placed our stars millions of miles away, and a concept of an infinite space, with no God outside of a universal shell was developed . This was taught in educational systems. If there were a God , some thought, it’s probably an impersonal energy . The idea of a separate mind to matter was written off because the mind could not be measured , and math could not be applied .
Measurements of the distance of planets in a multidimensional space, as spoken about by Lisa Randall, the Harvard Prof, may not be so easy to calculate . The laws of physics are said in the Vedas to operate differently in different parts of the universe, so what is far is near ,what is near is far in a multidimensional universe.
The traditional and ancient cosmological cultures, along with their sciences, should not be so hastily discarded and rubbished or replaced by scientific materialism , which in itself is an uncalibrated dogma . Scientific materialism can not account for a mind but rather believes it to only be simply neurons firing in a mechanistic mathematical brain . These events are all supposedly happening by chance in a chance universe . This mechanistic view could be said to be ludicrously absurd and discards the notion of the intelligence and obvious design in just about everything we see . Also, it ignores the perfect math in nature , where there is perfect mathematics , you can bet your bottom dollar there is a perfect mathematician behind it .
The existence of your body and the existence of your soul are two entirely different matters , never the twain shall meet , and they only appear to meet by the power of the flickering illusory energy. Like oil on water, the soul’s only true existence is within the same substance as itself , those energies are made of the same pure blissful consciousness, which expands into spiritual varigatedness along with personality . The Vedas clearly defines the sciences of consciousness both in its conditioned and liberated state .. Get yourself liberated.
No one really knows how the sun functions. For instance, it’s a puzzle why its temperature is cooler nearer to its surface . The Vedas say its light and energy have been transformed from an energy called the Bramhajyoti. The elecro magnetic energy are also transformed from the same source that atoms , elements, and compounds exist in , the whole of the material energy rests on the Bramhajyoyi .
In Bhagavad Gita different paths to purity of consciousness are given .
Jnana yoga and its perfection are achieved by detachment and developing knowledge of the natures of the material energies as well as its complexity and its entanglements. This process of developing knowledge and detachment is not perfection but brings one to the brink . Perfection comes from loving devotion and relationships with Divinity. The karma yoga path is for the many , by engaging ones nature in religious and dutiful works under the directions of theological sciences, automatically the consciousness rises in quality , automatically jnana, ie. knowledge and detachment develop , and the mind and senses are regulated and purified. Obviously, there are crossovers and some natural mixture of liking for karma or jnana , which fluctuates and should eventually bring the Karma yogis to strong knowledge and detachment . Bhakti is superior to both , and pure bhaki is bestowed by the blessings of Krishna and primarily his pure devotee . The idea is through good karma yoga and development of jnana, this pure goodness of consciousness is built up within the heart , and the heart becomes qualified to understand and practice pure Bhakti yoga. It becomes receptive, and more and more blessings are received through the Diksa or Siksa gurus, and one can then obtain pure Krishna consciousness. Sadhu sanga and Sastra sanga decend by mercy. http://www.thevedicspectator.com
When one strongly identifies with a particular outlook of a person or group of persons who may express particular strong scientific , philosophical or political views that can somehow convince , one could be said to be investing ones whole life in another’s world veiw. We should not sacrifice our own personal thinking power along with contemplative internal thinking . Placing faith and trust in another’s world veiw is a huge step to take. Scientifically speaking, for instance we can consider the following statements.
A scientific theory is a well-substantiated explanation of some aspect of a natural world that has been vigorously tested and repeatedly confirmed through observation and experiment , it’s never guessing but based on real events in a real world. We can also say for sure , and leading evolutionary scientists will also agree , Macro evolutionary hypothesis is not at all proven fact based science . It’s actually far from it , it’s a hypothesis based on micro evolution, which is a natural outcome of environmental changes. Honest scientists will surely tell you that much guessing is involved. Micro evolution does not mean macro evolution . Especially because without a mutational math calculation, it’s virtually a pipe dream, and it is not a phenomenon seen in the historical records of a real world. It has not been repeatedly confirmed in any findings . Also, through extensive and long-winded experimentation, it’s seen that molecules do not move towards life within a laboratory. A primodial soup of the Miller Uray kind remains totally unproven and pure guessing is involved. It’s been over forty years since Miller Uray, and no progress has been made.
Yet this crucial information seems to pass people by . If we look at the educational systems and the governance of it , it’s hardly surprising . Students have been taught not to be critical of the Darwinian hypothesis , and are not taught the alternative, intelligent design. They have, however, been taught to be critical of all philosophy and theological sciences based on dualism. Thus, todays students strongly identify with a Darwinian world view , and the whole investment of their temporary and fast-moving lives, become soley materialistic and fixed in this Darwinian world veiw .
This could be said to be deliberate, it very much suits the economic development syndrome of the crazed conglomerates who keep on producing any amount of goods of all kinds to satisfy an ever agitated mind and senses that will never find satisfaction. Dualism teaches the body wont be satisfied, the consciousness needs satisfying. The conglomerates like to think the sources of the materials for their goods are never going to deplete , and they don’t care what it takes to get them .Wars , famine , environmental damage, or natural habitats of animals made into wastelands .
So when persons base their world view on someone’s world view without any critical thinking , we have got to ask why ? It means education has failed, and when a scientific hypothesis is presented as fact based science , it again means education is a cheating process. We need sincere and strong critical thinking of the scientific kind in order to understand mind , matter, and consciousness. Our worldview and goals drastically change when science is not a spoon-fed indoctrination but instead based on the reality of an objective world and the science’s are self evident.
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