Perfection to imperfection ,or reflection  of perfection.The journeys of the soul

Srila Jiva Goswami, one of the greatest Vedic scholars, said ..”we are trying to bring perfection to imperfection..”

Ultimately, you could say atoms elements and compounds are an offering made by the material energies, they are so made by Divinity,  and reluctantly given by Him , reluctant ,  because the the living beings are attempting to bring  a perfection in their lives , but in an atmosphere that is not suitable , because atoms , elements and compounds can never satisfy our inner consciousnesss needs .What is that need , blissful, happy lives , and relationships that are increasingly rewarding . Perhaps the closest to the above are youthful or child like enthusiasms for life , schools out enthusiasm can be seen everywhere. It’s a kind of reflection of perfection . Ultimately, every theologically driven culture warns of the original pure consciousness  entanglements  in the material world,  and they provide analysis of the problems and offer solutions.  Entanglements in karmic activities and cyclic synchronicities can be very difficult to shift . Jiva Goswami indicates this in his Bhagavat Sandarbha….
The living beings conditioned concept of becoming an enjoyer of a substance that is ultimately alien to him is like the will of the wisp , AC Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada  said . Those fast moving atoms, elements and compounds and  particular subtle mind with given intellect are awarded within a  stipulated space and stipulated time to the  individual consciousness particle ,but they can not stay .The atoms are vibrating and producing  forms that appear as permanent reality , with a varigatedness that is indeed full of wonder , and no wonder , this is a reflection of a spiritual reality but here the essence of the pure heart is missing.
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Thinking and thinking practice , trancendental litratures and trancendental services bring trancendental thinking ..

“Regarding your first question, is it offensive to think of Krishna’s Pastimes while chanting, I think you should know that it is not offensive, but rather it is required. One must try for the point when he simply hears Krishna and immediately all of Krishna, His Pastimes, His Form, His Quality, are in his thoughts. So to always be immersed in thoughts of Krishna this is our process. When we are full in Krishna then where there can be any chance for maya in us? So this is our duty to remember Krishna’s Pastimes. One who cannot remember Krishna, let him always hear Hare Krishna and then when he has perfected this art, then always he will remember Krishna, His Activities, His Qualities, etc.”
Srila AC Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada…

For some reason some devotees have problems with this understanding of Krishna consciousness , in an avoidance of being “too esoteric ” some devotees give the unbalanced veiw , that deeper spontaneous thoughts and aspirations of services are not for the Gaudia Vaisnava’s . Of course there is due course , as clearly defined in the books of AC Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada , and Sri Caitanya Mahāprabhu has given indications in His conversation with Ramananda Roy about the complete process and the goal .

From Karma yoga in Varna Ashram to Niskarma karma yoga to buddhi yoga to pure Bhakti yoga in spontaneous love and the different types of pure love exhibited by different devotees in different places .

Ultimately, Prabhupada puts it perfectly , work hard, Samadhi later ..

So Black , white , many shades of grey .

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Equivalents are used in Nyaya logic..
Consciousness is seen equally in all beings .
It will never arise out of chemicals.
The source of a miniature Consciousness is a larger consciousness.
Like the sun and sun molecules.
There has never been a time that consciousness did not exist , nor in the future will it cease to be ..matter has certain properties.
Consciousness is a different sort of energy.
Thus, the ancients and their cultures were correctly based on dualism.
Scientific materialism is a recent construct ..and is completely subjective speculation , it curiously practically ignores consciousness , ignorance is bliss maybe , or enables a madman to live in illusion.
You are the same Consciousness particle, as you were as a child, but your body has changed .
When you sleep and dream , your body is acting , your consciouseness is  involved in an ethereal plane , a real life , so much so that if a man embraces a woman, he ejeculates .You completely forget your body lying in your bed.
On awakening, you remember and identify with it again ..at death your body is forgotten forever , but you wake up in a new one , only traces and some impressions of a previous consciousnesss conditioning is vaguely remembered .
Thus, your life is a daytime dream nighttime dream .
But you should ask why am I subjected to this ?

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The living spark is transfered into the sperm , it carries a great deal of information collected from the previous encounters from previous existence . The ethereal planes are currently not at all understood by those who only study scientific materialism , however, everyone experiences mind and intelligence along with unlimited creative thoughts .The soul needs a body , so the sperm is placed in a specific egg , and chemical signalling only lets one sperm into an egg .
The information of both Dna codes forms the prescribed body and its journeys of Karmic synchronicities.
Welcome to the world of Divine algorithms, Divinity has intelligence like the sun , and your intelligence is like one photon.
This is objective science..
Perfect math symmetry and order in everything.
Nothing by chance…

In order for life to be meaningful,  peaceful, and rewarding, the following is important ..

I would strongly recommend that all the major religions of the world unite together so a combined document can be produced on .
The meanings and purposes of ethics and justice within governance of international bodies and local governments .
Along with this, an international criminal justice system that actually has power.
Any countries outside those systems should be discarded and isolated financially economically and in every way possible, including the USA or any EU countries.
No one as it currently stands is qualified for entrance into this new world order ..
The first thing is to educate people , so fools don’t vote in fools or religious unthinking fanatics. Don’t get the following of other religious unthinking fanatics ..
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If we look at the ocean or  extract a drop of sea water ,and  examine one drop of it , it  enables us to understand something of the ocean . However, in reality , the total  combined oceans is a true expression of what the sum total of the ocean is . Within its depths are  complex currents and even unknown species are lurking. So, a cursory glance or or some examination does not tell us much , but gives some idea

In the same way ….
One can point to one person , one particle of consciousness, and understand something of consciousness  , such a study will give  some clues of  the nature of God and His consciousness . The Vedas inficates God displays His unlimited consciousness  in numerous ways , and they should be considered. He is, for instance, fully conscious of every one of his part and parcel expansions, namely the  all the living beings .  He is simultaneously one and different from them and reciprocating with each part separately and directly . Those who understand consciousness properly can understand something of God .Thats why those who understand dualism by studying their own consciousness will most definitely understand something of the ” ocean ” of God’s unlimited consciousness and something of His unlimitness energies and powers .

mayā tatam idaṁ sarvaṁ
jagad avyakta-mūrtinā
mat-sthāni sarva-bhūtāni
na cāhaṁ teṣv avasthitaḥ

Translation
By Me, in My unmanifested form, this entire universe is pervaded. All beings are in Me, but I am not in them.

Srila Sridhar Swami would say , in describing God ….…that God is everywhere but nowhere . How is this ? Because God is He who is full of opulences and lives in a multiuniversal capacity,  both material and spiritual . He can bestow trancendental bliss upon His devotees as  the original personality of Godhead and simultaneously take care of the affairs of the material energies . God is everything , but also Krishna is the original person from whom all the other forms of Divinity expand, and multifarious energies , some superior some inferia. He remains  permanently in Goloka Vrndavana , the spiritual world .  So He is inside everything and simultaneously outside .

How can those placing faith in  scientific materialism or atheistic Darwinian hypothesis understand ?

But Einstein, Bohr, Schrödinger , Feynman or Teller would very well understand.

And the Harvard Prof Lisa Randall.

The concept that Krishna is everywhere but nowhere is explored in spiritual and philosophical writings in many cultures. Particularly within the framework of  the dualistic school of Vedic philosophy , as opposed to monism , ie. God that is impersonal . This concept, often attributed to Srila Sridhar Swami, suggests that Krishna is both all-encompassing and yet transcends any specific location or limitation.
Here’s a breakdown of the concept:
Everywhere:
Krishna is seen as the ultimate reality, the underlying principle of the universe. As such, He is present in everything, pervading all space and time. This aligns with the idea of Brahman, the ultimate reality in Advaita Vedanta, which  considers God impersonal and to be one, indivisible, and the source of all existence.
The one and difference are discussed in the Srimad Bhagavatam…
It indicates, “At the same time as being all pervading , Krishna is beyond the limitations of the material world.” He is not confined to any specific place, time, or form. This aspect of Divinity emphasizes His expansions of His  spiritual energies , the ultimate reality. It’s not limited by the duality of existence and non-existence of the physical world.
In Essence:
The “everywhere but nowhere” concept highlights the paradoxical nature of the ultimate reality. It suggests that while Krishna is present in every aspect of the universe, He also transcends it and is not bound by the limitations of the material world.
This concept is often used to illustrate the idea that the ultimate reality is not something that can be defined or localized in the same way as ordinary objects or beings. It emphasizes the transcendence of the divine and the fact that He is beyond our comprehension. “
Bhagavad Gita .9.4
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If the Vedas is correct , how is it that one soul successfully arrives in the womb of a particular person or particular creature .

Nothing by chance but by design..

” Everything is happening by the supreme desire of Krishna , this consciousness is Krishna consciousness.”
AC Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada

There are systems for the  arrivals of each and every consciousness particle . There are chosen destinations , a chosen time and place . Each particle of consciousness in a particular body at a particular time will  be lived out , like it or not .

Mankind does pretty well at  advancing in all sorts of   technologies some  have the ability to direct and control extraordinary amounts of information , increasingly influencing and controlling the world around  , at least some of them are controlling , the others are being influenced and controlled  . The Ai and algorithmic processes have made the  impossible  possible, it seems . Is it too difficult to conceive of Divinities algorithmic processes ? One should, with  rationality, consider the divine  possibilities and see how scientifically they might be  possible and work on an infinitely greater scale,  via mind , matter and consciousness  linked and responsive with each other , this is the Vedic way.

The scientific community, for instance, has examined how a  particular sperm is attracted chemically to a particular egg of the female , no other sperm can enter . This is chemical signalling. Other sperm die off ….so life is a struggle from its beginning to end .. and it might take a specific time period before the circumstances click into place that fit a set of circumstances for a particular consciousness particle.

Even the specific messages that you are going to receive via the WWW are a  highly complex business ,  but they are made easy in the technological age we currently live in .

This is explained in the following way .

“While it may seem like a needle in a haystack, directing a specific message to one person out of trillions relies on a system of unique identifiers and protocols. Each message is routed based on the recipient’s IP address, a unique numerical label assigned to their device, and the message itself is formatted according to specific communication protocols like TCP/IP, ensuring it reaches the intended destination “

Those who advocate scientific materialism also  advocate that everything is happening by chance events driven  by  nature . The question should be, ” Who’s nature ?.

Dark energies  and dark matter have the Vedic explanation , the ethereal planes are an aspect of subtle science’s described clearly in the Vedas .What goes on in such ethereal energies? Future destinations and automated systems,  our next destination is already beginning to form , it is indicated.

Travelling at high speed throughout our  planet are  countless of  trillions of messages and images , i.e., Internet messages and images ,  we know that  . The ethereal energies also carry signalling of a different kind , that of our karmic  brainwaves , and  our desires and deserves , a subtle world of actions and reactions. the Vedas indicate to be played out later . The world of the multidimensional universe lives on , not in the minds of the disciples of the gurus of scientific materialism but within those who have an open unbiased scientific inquiring capacities of a  reality of matter, mind , body and the  consciousness. This is dualism.
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Stephen Hawkins asks how did it all begin ? …

There is , according to the Vedas , a cause of all causes . The Vedas defines such a cause and the purposes of the cause . Primarily, everything is  centred around consciousness, and the material energies are a secondary factor , both consciousness and the formation of matter are delineated in detail as well as speciation. The  Vedas further  clearly defines the nature of the original cause’s personality and traits consisting of varigatedness within a spiritual and material plane . Everything is one and different from the cause and should be thought of and understood that way .
Although the original cause had no cause , something those that who  have been caused can’t get their heads around , still we must remind the inconceivable energies that are flowing throughout the universes as well as within each individual body that carries each  consciousness particle. To separate laws of nature of the universe, which has a functional purpose connected to our consciouseness ,  from the origins of the universe who saw the need of the functioning universe , will be essential in logical terms . As much as it is in  separating the high court judge from the prison.
The clue to understanding God is to  properly understand oneself , this  independent nature of the sparks of consciousness that originate from the whole , and that  inherently possess free will .  That  free will need facilitating with facilities.
What is difficulty ?

The proud proud Darwinian or the proud, proud followers of scientific materialism bodly declare to God.
” Show yourself to me.”
Never mind that we see  traits of what is obviously design in all things , at least in the minds of the logical person ,  along with the obvious codes and informational exchanges that build the protein machines that  build the cells , that build the bodies of all creatures. On the surface of things , any sane persons can accept such observations , as Sir Fred Hoyle noted, “It’s all too perfect .”
Yet , to such a mighty engineer as Divinity Himself ,the  charletons who claim to present objective science shout out to Him , ” If you exist, come and show yourself.”
Thus, the uncultured man presumes much of himself , so much so that he issues orders to God .
This is the nature of rascals .
There are also many scientific and philosophical reasons why Divinity is everywhere and nowhere .One only needs to  enquire from a person who truthfully and objectively sees truth
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Srimad Bhagavatam 1.1.1.

O my Lord, Śrī Kṛṣṇa, son of Vasudeva, O all-pervading Personality of Godhead, I offer my respectful obeisances unto You. I meditate upon Lord Śrī Kṛṣṇa because He is the Absolute Truth and the primeval cause of all causes of the creation, sustenance and destruction of the manifested universes. He is directly and indirectly conscious of all manifestations, and He is independent because there is no other cause beyond Him. It is He only who first imparted the Vedic knowledge unto the heart of Brahmājī, the original living being. By Him even the great sages and demigods are placed into illusion, as one is bewildered by the illusory representations of water seen in fire, or land seen on water. Only because of Him do the material universes, temporarily manifested by the reactions of the three modes of nature, appear factual, although they are unreal. I therefore meditate upon Him, Lord Śrī Kṛṣṇa, who is eternally existent in the transcendental abode, which is forever free from the illusory representations of the material world. I meditate upon Him, for He is the Absolute Truth.

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Networking branches

In Gaudia Vaisnava Tattva, not only are there branches of disciplic successions but also branches and networks of countless varieties of services offered by each of those successions  directly liking  to  Divinity ,  both of course are synonymous , connecting to a disciplic succession automatically means connecting to services to Divinity.
Services to Divinity are carried out  not only in the spiritual world  but also in the material world  and when perfected are of similar qualities , the example has been given of cold iron being put in fire , it  becomes like red hot fire .  Ones body mind and senses can  become fully  spiritualized even in the material world by  connecting and following Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu and Sri Guru , who can directly connect one to Krishna .  Significantly , the  services directly connected with Goloka Vrndavana and the residents thereof begin to become revealed and experienced, and the devotees relish the trancendental loving moods and directly take up their specific services.

The Vaishnavas , who have  aspirations for the sweetness of Krishna consciousness , begin to give up the many variables of fake sweetness and deceit masquerading as true and honest relationships within the material world .Instead ,they look for those  persons in true recovery mode and carry out their recovery and revival of Krishna consciousness in their company.

The results of following the networks of services of the  various branches of disciplic succession are trancendental and increasing sweetness of one’s consciousness is experienced and a distaste for the bitterness that the material world offers , in temporary affairs and that pose themselves as sweet in  this world of names is realised

On a tree, we see many branches , they all look different in their way , but on the other hand , if you rub the leaves together, they all taste the same . Thus, the many branches of Gaudia Vaisnavism are like those branches and should be understood as such by the broad thinking and generous hearted Vaisnava.
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Srila Gour Govinda Swami would say..

Krishna says, ” Think of me become my devotee ” at the end of the Gita
But He didn’t say how in detail and depth .
So He came again as Sri Caitanya Mahāprabhu to practically teach how by example, by teaching about the love of the residents of Vrndavana, who in love spontaneously thought of Krishna
And The Goswami’ s who were taught by Mahāprabhu greatly expanded the tenth Canto of Srimad Bhagavatam with descriptions of Radha Krishna Nitya lila , Sri Caitanya Mahāprabhu would meditate on the works of many other writers of the Love of the residents of Vraj . The Goswami also, along with analysing the purificatory process of Bhakti, from Karma and Niskarma karma yoga , leading to buddhi yoga or jnana yoga to its perfection, Bhakti yoga in spontaneous love . Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu adds Bhakti yoga immediately by chanting Hare Krishna under the direction of Sri Guru, which connects to and is purifying the other types of yoga .
So seems like a kind of ” new testament “and new process has come about , and the Bhagavad Gita is the excellent summary study of everything , but we require The Sri Caitanya Mahāprabhu connection along with the Goswami’s and Sri Guru who follows Rupa Ragganatha..and those that are their followers.
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This Srimad Bhagavatam translated and with commentaries of Srila AC Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada is representative of the essence of the teachings of the complete Vedas . Leading scholars worldwide have never before had such access to these teachings  in such broad format, what to speak of the general public .

The word “why” is a very  popular word on Google , indeed, the Vedas indicates , unless the human asks…” Who am I  ?  why do I exist ,  why and how  did existence begin ” , one is  wasting a valuable opportunity,  animals don’t have rational, logic, or  enquiring minds, but they are as conscious as you or I .

William Paley , in 1850 once said anyone  finding a watch walking on a Moor on its examination  would naturally conclude its fine engineering and design is the work of a creative consciousness because of its   intelligent design. Sir Isaac Newton  said that each individual thumb print of human beings is clear evidence for individual design,…The teleological argument of a  deliberate and functional design that’s permeating everything on our planet including the creatures and men who live  remains logically strong , and of course its becoming stronger as scientific research progresses , Not weaker …….The study of the entropy of the cell and the fine tuning of the universe  that Sir Fred Hoyle referred to as  someone monkeying with the universe is the example he gave ….some call it the  goldilocks phenomena  ….,everything is just right , … not too hot or too cold, not  too much gravitational force not too little,  just the right amount of oxygen ….and  certainly the opening of the Srimad Bhagavatam affirms this  supervisory element……the opening sloka declares Divinity is directly and indirectly conscious of every aspect of creation . He  says he is inside and outside the  creation  and it’s his ( vibhutis ) ..or his deliberate energies that are at work….Life comes from life….
The Srimad Bhagavatam  is a series of one to one conversations through time and  with  different dialogue partners  ,  weaving in and out  there are no chronological orders   . It consists of references  to histories and  lessons that can be learned…. either from Divinity Himself or from  His devotees. These are defined as factual events , or illustrative stories emphasising key and important philosophical points .The Bhagavatam also appears  and dissappear in the long course of 311 trillion years , the time span of  this universe .  ….like the sun rising  and setting , wisdom comes and goes in cyclic cycles .
The engineer of this alloted universe  Bramha has 4.5 billion of our years as his 12 hours ..and when  he sleeps a partial shut down of the universe lasting for another  4.5 billion years begins , before he awakens and the  universe regenerates ,  vast parts of the universe remain unaffected.

Lord Krishna Himself is responsible for  societal affairs as well as upholding  the principles of religion ….. 5000 years ago  He was present here on earth , and when He left after completing His purposes ….he left  Vedic wisdom in many forms…actually if one acts justly and fairly life is reasonably fulfilled  automatically , peaceful and progressive  elevation of consciousness takes place …. this being deliberate Vedic synchronicities ,  if one acts against religious principles, one  degrades the  consciousness and will be helplessly entangled  in reactions and sufferings , also Vedic synchronicities.. The method to understanding the Bhagavatam is to hear knowledge  from the truthful person , they will speak about the eternal occupation of the consciousness.  Symptom of the soul is consciousness . Consciousness can be in a place where consciousness can thrive where it is surrounded by pure  conscious energy , and not the deteriating and fluctuating matter made of atomic particals forming elements , molecules and compounds …….The sages  in answer to the question ” What happens to Krishna’ s good advice when he left earth ” was answered by Sukadeva Goswami . “When Krishna leaves  this world, his instructions formulate and take  shape in the form of the Srimad Bhagavatam.”
Everything for mankind is contained within its pages , and the expert person Bhagavat, who understands the Bhagavatam, is able to extract and understand all its mysteries  Progressive steps are chalked out…..for everyone , all types of persons .
It is said that one who does wrong or suffers wrong is wrong . Krishna  favours a good council that brings  justice to all proceedings of administration, without which there is turmoil in society, including the workings of the planet . Today , it’s seen , unnecessary suffering of many many persons and creatures and misguidance on a tumultuous scale are  brought about by so-called leaders who are completely unfit to  lead . Study of the Bhagavatam brings us great security  and wisdom . Wisdom  for everyone, including family members . Wisdom and discernment are essential in life . The understanding  of the history of  science and religion are all essential ingredients to life , otherwise, mistaken ideas develop, leading to misfortune.
Wherever there is Krishna, there is always great fortune and victory.
Krishna lies within all the pages of the Bhagavatam directly or indirectly.

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