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Steven mcnamara Srimad Bhagavatam comparing scientific goals
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Steven mcnamara Srimad Bhagavatam the fundermental sciences
There, you will find what priorities Srimad Bhagavatam gives to consciousness exploration, observations are given , which in many cases contradict the majority of scientists who promote subjective scientific materialism , but there are also examples of scientific theories that parallel the current scientific thinking in terms of broad ranges of subjects in physics , biology and chemistry .
Scientific materialism is nothing new , in the sense that the Greek philosophical thinkers were both discussing atomism and dualism , in otherwords those like Plato and Socrates who understood mind and matter to be totally different substances and those like Democritus who believed the world is only made up of atoms and the mind is simply neurons firing and that causes mind and consciousness.
Many people , many thoughts ,many destinations , from mind come matter or a liberation from matter.
Scientific materialism thinkers assume that after death, everything is finished for him . No more existence……
The Buddhist think that a mind remains , and unless one has completely finished with all material desires , reincarnation will occur. They are taught that whenever all material desires are finished , they will be finished with all problems of life . Everything finished , body , mind intelligence, and soul.
The following and acceptance of Sankacarya , according to their teaching means that at death, the mind remains for those that have material desires , but those who are liberated from such desires can merge into a spiritual light and become one with the oneness of Divinity
The Vaishnavas , the devotees of Krishna or Divinity , at death, have no desire to make life a merge into God or give up any separation from Him .
because their minds have been already absorbed in loving exchanges and devotional service and a rememberance of the eternal forms and pastimes of Radha and Krishna, along with Their associates, thus they already live in a trancendental realm , and after leaving the body they arrive in that transcendental personal plane , where the trancendental pastimes of Krsna continues eternally , taking place in spiritual bodies with various forms and qualities that are not subject to material conditioning.

There are many examples throughout the works , Lord Indra, who became disturbed because King Priyavrata was about to complete a hundredth sacrifice (Indra was the only person who had completed such a task . ) But , BECAUSE he was the king of heaven and had a large ego to go with the large […]
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Go to you tube Steven mcnamara Srimad Bhagavatam comparing scientific goals Or Steven mcnamara Srimad Bhagavatam the fundermental sciences There, you will find what priorities Srimad Bhagavatam gives to consciousness exploration, and observations are given which in many cases contradict the majority of scientists who promote subjective scientific materialism , but there are also examples […]
SRIMAD BHAGAVATAM AND COMPARING SCIENTIFIC GOALS.
Lea Cronin and his pet monkeys…
One has to question Lee Cronin, whose speculations are running wild , believing that intelligent selections spontaneously happen by trial and error and the billions of dna coding and the thousands of parts that make up a human body practically self select . Actually, in vedic terms, the self , in literal terms, selects , with the help of the super Self , a conditioned self with certain mentality , born of actions within matter is connected to a highly complex universal systems on an ethereal plane that devolves in to countless billions of arrangement of atoms ,elements, compounds, molecules , making arrangements for the perfect machine ( the body) in which the soul can temporarily dwell , within eight million four hundred thousands of species of life in this universe , consider , each individual in a species has different individual circumstances awarded due to its granted free will and a deterministic processes within the three modes of nature , which unlimitedly mix and multiply like an artists pallet or melodies on a piano.
FURTHER interest in this topic is discussed in the Bhagavad Gita wherein Krishna gives an alternative to being engaged in matter , but yet , still working within it , when He says ” one who sees action in inaction and inaction in action ” thus the presupposed reactions within the material energies , being so called good or so called bad …….have no effects.
CRONIN assumes that a million monkeys on a million typewriters in a million years would be able to produce a Shakespeare play , just by chance… . Mmmm.
Lee Cronin selectorism theory does not explain the sources of materials or the goal of selections , or his own consciousness , his enquiries presupposes consciousness ,consciousness is the selector, not matter , and for life to occur perfectly in self replicating motions , and by a mutations process, never mind a million ingredients….how many to the power of numbers would be required ? Or types of ingredients and knowledge of specific natural laws that would be productive and be required to evolve the countless tiny machines needed within the machine of the overall body that needs developing ? For example… the 100s of nano machines existing and operating in one cell of our body.
A successful living force needs a developing mind and creative intelligence , bearing in mind that the Darwinian thinks incorrectly that the mind and intelligence is simply neurons firing in the brain , something that eastern philosophy and many scientists disagree with , adaptability and rational..are very much beyond chance chemical reactions…….mixing chemicals never has and never will produce consciousness…..thus Life comes from Life ….that’s our only experience.
This trancendental phenomena ranges from its height , as Vrsabhanu Nandini Sri Radhe laughs with her friends loudly declaring victory ” The beautiful one is mine ” after Krishna fainted in ecstatic trance , experiencing Her madana Maha bhava , down to the simple rules in life that regulate the unruly , an example could be …if a man wants to eat flesh , he must whisper into the animals ear ….that today I kill you , but in a future life you can do the same to me …
Thus discouraging violence.
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There are many examples throughout the Bhagavatam of fair play , understanding and negotiations.
Lord Indra, for example , became disturbed because King Priyavrata was about to complete a hundred consecutive sacrifices , giving him special powers.
(Indra was the only person who had previously completed such a task . )
But , BECAUSE he was the king of heaven and had naturally a large ego to go with his prestigious position , so , Lord Bramha , on behalf of Krishna , negotiated with King Priyavrata , and it was settled that King Priyavrata would not complete the task and settled up for only 99 sacrifices .
Krishna wanted lord Indra to keep his pride and distinction in his place , which is important to leadership roles . So sometimes, in daily dealings the implementation of morals , ethics, and good behaviour are implemented carefully and gradually and not do not always occur the way we would necessarily like events to unfold , so patience is required . Certain domestic and political sensitivities must come into play , some persons are not ready to immediately hear perfect good sense . The material energies are as such , that time and patience must be adopted towards some persons , and karmic situations worldwide are often beyond bewildering , nevertheless Divinity remains in full control , and the Srimad Bhagavatam can reveal to us the mysteries of Divinity and the free will and determinism of universal affairs.